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<blockquote data-quote="Magus Coeruleus" data-source="post: 1668531" data-attributes="member: 1704"><p>Cheiro: I'm going to talk to my DM but I think the concern is more how his campaign works than the power level. </p><p></p><p>Shallown: Shillelagh is fun and fairly powerful, although having a 9 Str makes melee combat kind of iffy. My PC has a Str of 10 and started off using it a lot but through experience started preferring Produce Flame (also helps to have an extra level or two to get more attacks and damage with it) because it is a touch attack and so easier to connect, and it can be hurled, taking advantage of a good Dex, plus it has 120' range and no range penalties within that. If you like using Shillelagh, then speaking of spell synergy, I highly recommend you pick Enlarge Person as a Wizard spell. The bonuses/penalties can be little confusing, but the net effect is -1 to AC, +1 to melee damage, weapon damage di(c)e as per one size increase, and 10' reach. Shillelagh already does damage as per a huge club+1 (i.e. two sizes larger than you assuming you're medium-sized ), that is 2d6+1. With Enlarge Person on you, it damages as a gargantuam club+1, i.e. 3d6+1! As a Drd1/Wiz1 with a Str9 to begin with, that means you will attack at a +0 for 3d6+1 damage. I don't know if you wield a shield but if your other hand is free for casting, you can try to stay 10' away from opponents to cast safely and if they try to get closer, take advantage of AOOs with your reach Shillelagh. To speed things up, I have listed my damage ratings for my cudgel as per normal, with Shillelagh, and with Shillelagh and Enlarge Person. If you use it a lot, it helps to write or memorize it so you don't have to go looking at two spells, the weapon table, and the alternate weapon size damage table every time you use this tactic.</p><p></p><p>I'll post some stats of Feanor (my Drd3/Wiz3) later.</p><p></p><p>Cheers,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magus Coeruleus, post: 1668531, member: 1704"] Cheiro: I'm going to talk to my DM but I think the concern is more how his campaign works than the power level. Shallown: Shillelagh is fun and fairly powerful, although having a 9 Str makes melee combat kind of iffy. My PC has a Str of 10 and started off using it a lot but through experience started preferring Produce Flame (also helps to have an extra level or two to get more attacks and damage with it) because it is a touch attack and so easier to connect, and it can be hurled, taking advantage of a good Dex, plus it has 120' range and no range penalties within that. If you like using Shillelagh, then speaking of spell synergy, I highly recommend you pick Enlarge Person as a Wizard spell. The bonuses/penalties can be little confusing, but the net effect is -1 to AC, +1 to melee damage, weapon damage di(c)e as per one size increase, and 10' reach. Shillelagh already does damage as per a huge club+1 (i.e. two sizes larger than you assuming you're medium-sized ), that is 2d6+1. With Enlarge Person on you, it damages as a gargantuam club+1, i.e. 3d6+1! As a Drd1/Wiz1 with a Str9 to begin with, that means you will attack at a +0 for 3d6+1 damage. I don't know if you wield a shield but if your other hand is free for casting, you can try to stay 10' away from opponents to cast safely and if they try to get closer, take advantage of AOOs with your reach Shillelagh. To speed things up, I have listed my damage ratings for my cudgel as per normal, with Shillelagh, and with Shillelagh and Enlarge Person. If you use it a lot, it helps to write or memorize it so you don't have to go looking at two spells, the weapon table, and the alternate weapon size damage table every time you use this tactic. I'll post some stats of Feanor (my Drd3/Wiz3) later. Cheers, [/QUOTE]
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