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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheEvil" data-source="post: 2451667" data-attributes="member: 23261">Ah, the debate that won't die and will, if allowed, overtake all other threads!  The whole 'CON changes do/don't effect HPs' debate has been going on strong for some time and it seems that no amount of publishing, editing, errata, typos and so forth will change the opinions of those who want to hold to them.  As much as I would love to jump into it pointing out where people are being selective in their reading, I will try to set a good example and let it go.  I think we can safely say that we have given Moriarty all the information he needs to make a decision on which way he wants to go with it.  How about we let this line of debate die for a change and more fully address the rest of his question?  If one simply must continue it, how about a new thread?As far as how the druid can be effective in combat with wildshape, I would strongly encourage the player to look over his spell lists with an eye toward buff spells.  I have seen buffed wildshaped druids unleash havok in melee that a enraged power-attacking barbarian would envy.  Also don't forget a druids ability to assume an aquatic form for underwater exploration.  In one game I was in, no interesting waterway went unexplored while we were underground.  He is probably lucky he didn't get attacked while solo...</blockquote>