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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 3619689" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>Check out the Dire animals. At 5th, you can get the Dire Badger or Dire Weasel (either of which are better than most the "Normal" counterparts. The Dire Bear, Dire Tiger, Dire Lion, Dire Ape (for the reach) are all really good choices once you get Large Wildshape (at 8th - due note that it works like Alternate Form, which doesn't impose a HD limit, and Wildshape doesn't itself impose a HD limit - so you can technically be a 12 HD Dire Bear at 8th). </p><p></p><p>Oh, and do remember: Endure Elements is on the Druid list as a 1st level spell. Lasts 24 hours. As a spell, it works between forms. If you have enough ranks in Knowledge(Nature) to be "familiar" with the dinosaurs, they're feasible.</p><p></p><p>Edit:</p><p>Huh... running the numbers, the Dire Tiger (call it a Siberian Tiger, maybe) is superior to the Megaraptor anyway (in all things except speed and Con) ... oh, and there's no HD limit on Alternate Form or Wildshape! Yay! Still Large, though, so not an option until 8th. Dire Ape (call it a Yeti) has reach and a better average damage output due to Rend up to a point, but lower AC and no Pounce.</p><p></p><p>Edit 2:</p><p>Wait - Vow of Poverty? Technically, you keep all Vow of Poverty bonuses in Wildshape (unlike when you wildshape with equipment; also technically, you can't have your Holly and Mistletoe, as it isn't on the list of permissible things).... oh, and do look up the various Exalted Wildshape feats. You might also want to try a 1-level dip into Monk - it'll boost your AC considerably.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 3619689, member: 29252"] Check out the Dire animals. At 5th, you can get the Dire Badger or Dire Weasel (either of which are better than most the "Normal" counterparts. The Dire Bear, Dire Tiger, Dire Lion, Dire Ape (for the reach) are all really good choices once you get Large Wildshape (at 8th - due note that it works like Alternate Form, which doesn't impose a HD limit, and Wildshape doesn't itself impose a HD limit - so you can technically be a 12 HD Dire Bear at 8th). Oh, and do remember: Endure Elements is on the Druid list as a 1st level spell. Lasts 24 hours. As a spell, it works between forms. If you have enough ranks in Knowledge(Nature) to be "familiar" with the dinosaurs, they're feasible. Edit: Huh... running the numbers, the Dire Tiger (call it a Siberian Tiger, maybe) is superior to the Megaraptor anyway (in all things except speed and Con) ... oh, and there's no HD limit on Alternate Form or Wildshape! Yay! Still Large, though, so not an option until 8th. Dire Ape (call it a Yeti) has reach and a better average damage output due to Rend up to a point, but lower AC and no Pounce. Edit 2: Wait - Vow of Poverty? Technically, you keep all Vow of Poverty bonuses in Wildshape (unlike when you wildshape with equipment; also technically, you can't have your Holly and Mistletoe, as it isn't on the list of permissible things).... oh, and do look up the various Exalted Wildshape feats. You might also want to try a 1-level dip into Monk - it'll boost your AC considerably. [/QUOTE]
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