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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 8680069" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>That's the frame that was being discussed from the beginning though. I've never said that your point isn't valid, just that it's not the one that's being discussed in this conversation.</p><p></p><p>You yourself granted the premise that I was making when <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/dtrpg-says-dont-criticize-us-or-well-ban-you.689576/post-8679971" target="_blank">you acknowledged</a> that I was referring to what you called a "subset" of the market. The difference is that you think it's meaningless, and I <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/dtrpg-says-dont-criticize-us-or-well-ban-you.689576/post-8679981" target="_blank">pointed out</a> that it isn't meaningless to the publishers for whom that subset is their entire business model. To which you...posted an emoji.</p><p></p><p>Again, I want to be absolutely clear: you're right that Kickstarter is by far the larger revenue-generator where digital TTRPG products as a whole are concerned. I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that's a different model than the one used by DriveThruRPG, Paizo, OpenGamingStore, and similar venues.</p><p></p><p>McDonald's and Domino's Pizza are both fast food places. But one is dine-in/carry-out, while the other is delivery. Saying "but they're both fast food, and one is much bigger than the other" is true, but if I'm just talking about delivery, that's not really relevant to what's being discussed.</p><p></p><p>(Though I suppose there might still be some dine-in Domino's places out there, maybe?)</p><p></p><p><strong>EDIT:</strong> Having said that, I can see that tempers are beginning to flare, and I really do want this to remain a civil discussion. To that end, I'm going to voluntarily withdraw from this thread. I've made my points as clear as I can, and I believe that they have merit, but I don't want to contribute to getting the discussion locked. Hopefully no one comes away from this with any hard feelings, as I believe that different philosophies, opinions, and beliefs are good, as are talking about them publicly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 8680069, member: 8461"] That's the frame that was being discussed from the beginning though. I've never said that your point isn't valid, just that it's not the one that's being discussed in this conversation. You yourself granted the premise that I was making when [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/dtrpg-says-dont-criticize-us-or-well-ban-you.689576/post-8679971']you acknowledged[/URL] that I was referring to what you called a "subset" of the market. The difference is that you think it's meaningless, and I [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/dtrpg-says-dont-criticize-us-or-well-ban-you.689576/post-8679981']pointed out[/URL] that it isn't meaningless to the publishers for whom that subset is their entire business model. To which you...posted an emoji. Again, I want to be absolutely clear: you're right that Kickstarter is by far the larger revenue-generator where digital TTRPG products as a whole are concerned. I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that's a different model than the one used by DriveThruRPG, Paizo, OpenGamingStore, and similar venues. McDonald's and Domino's Pizza are both fast food places. But one is dine-in/carry-out, while the other is delivery. Saying "but they're both fast food, and one is much bigger than the other" is true, but if I'm just talking about delivery, that's not really relevant to what's being discussed. (Though I suppose there might still be some dine-in Domino's places out there, maybe?) [B]EDIT:[/B] Having said that, I can see that tempers are beginning to flare, and I really do want this to remain a civil discussion. To that end, I'm going to voluntarily withdraw from this thread. I've made my points as clear as I can, and I believe that they have merit, but I don't want to contribute to getting the discussion locked. Hopefully no one comes away from this with any hard feelings, as I believe that different philosophies, opinions, and beliefs are good, as are talking about them publicly. [/QUOTE]
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