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<blockquote data-quote="randomling" data-source="post: 875312" data-attributes="member: 8432">I suppose you could rule that those spells that don't have a saving throw would have a commensurate penalty to the attack roll (a lot of spells that don't allow a saving throw require a touch attack).I can't remember the rules for Harm (does it require an attack roll?) but that still leaves a problem with magic missile. Maybe duel wielding a wand of MM could result in a damage penalty?Or maybe dual wielding could warrant a (reasonably high)Spellcraft check. 15 + spell level to get the spell off (if you fail a charge is wasted)? Followed by a Wisdom check (DC 5) to avoid a mishap, as if you were casting a spell from a scroll that was too high level.I don't know if that sounds overly harsh. But I think that if activating a wand is like turning a mental key in a lock, then activating two in 6 seconds should be hard to do. Even with the appropriate feat.Dual Wand FightingPrerequisites: Combat Casting, Spellcaster 5th+, Spellcraft skillBenefit: As a full round action, you may activate two wands (one in each hand). When using this feat, both wands require a Spellcraft check (15 + spell level) to activate, or the charge is wasted. If you fail to activate the wand correctly, you must succeed at a Wisdom check (DC 5) to avoid a mishap.Normal: You may only use one wand at a time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="randomling, post: 875312, member: 8432"] I suppose you could rule that those spells that don't have a saving throw would have a commensurate penalty to the attack roll (a lot of spells that don't allow a saving throw require a touch attack). I can't remember the rules for Harm (does it require an attack roll?) but that still leaves a problem with magic missile. Maybe duel wielding a wand of MM could result in a damage penalty? Or maybe dual wielding could warrant a (reasonably high)Spellcraft check. 15 + spell level to get the spell off (if you fail a charge is wasted)? Followed by a Wisdom check (DC 5) to avoid a mishap, as if you were casting a spell from a scroll that was too high level. I don't know if that sounds overly harsh. But I think that if activating a wand is like turning a mental key in a lock, then activating two in 6 seconds should be hard to do. Even with the appropriate feat. [b]Dual Wand Fighting[/b] [b]Prerequisites:[/b] Combat Casting, Spellcaster 5th+, Spellcraft skill [b]Benefit:[/b] As a full round action, you may activate two wands (one in each hand). When using this feat, both wands require a Spellcraft check (15 + spell level) to activate, or the charge is wasted. If you fail to activate the wand correctly, you must succeed at a Wisdom check (DC 5) to avoid a mishap. [b]Normal:[/b] You may only use one wand at a time. [/QUOTE]

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