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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5711699" data-attributes="member: 71571">Another way to look at it is that the dual weapon style was supported in 3rd edition by a handful of feats only, and before that by...oh yeah... be a Ranger.In fourth edition it's supported by an entire class as well as builds of other classes.  You've traded shallow "Here reduce the penalties" support for deep "Here, what -style- of two-handed fighting do you want, exactly?" support.But of those classes that offer it, they offer -depth- of choices from first to final level.  A class is not built around one at-will power.  Unless you take more than one power.Which every first level character pre-essentials does!Good thing there's the Hybrid class, eh?Let's be honest, dual-fighting isn't just something you add on to other things.  It's a fighting style all in its own.  It's not like you go 'Well, I'm used to using a broadsword and a shield, so picking up a main gauche, why, that's just like a shield and combat will be exactly the same!'It's enough of a difference that yes, it does justify unique classes and builds, rather than throwaway feats.  It's a <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing specialization, just like 'I cast destructive necromantic magic' is a specialization.  That deserves better support than a throwaway feat.  And it does get better support, by MAKING it your specialization, rather than something everyone does cause... eh.</blockquote>

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