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<blockquote data-quote="Wrathamon" data-source="post: 6376571" data-attributes="member: 7989"><p>Nothing says you loose the AC bonus when using a shield as an improvised weapon. Only time you dont get the AC bonus is if you're not wielding it in one hand or if you are wielding a second one.</p><p></p><p>The general rule: Wielding a shield increases your AC by 2 and you can only benefit form only one shield at a time (so no +4 ac with dual wielding 2 shields). Used in one hand.</p><p></p><p>The exception rules: Improvised Weapons rule that let you use an object that bears no resemblance to a weapon as one and it deal 1d4 damage but you get no proficiency. AND: DMs option to allow proficiency if they feel it is similar to another weapon.</p><p></p><p>Two-Weapon Fighting ... EDIT: Both weapons have to be light. The weapon you start the attack with must be a light weapon and the bonus attack must also be a light weapon.</p><p></p><p>Two-Weapon Fighting Style ... you get your bonus damage</p><p></p><p>At this point with out Feats </p><p></p><p>EDIT</p><p>You cannot make a improvised weapon (shield) attack as a bonus attack because it is not a light weapon. </p><p></p><p>You can't attack with the shield and a light bonus attack, because the shield is not a light weapon.</p><p></p><p>With Feats ... </p><p></p><p> +1 bonus to AC while you are wielding a separate melee weapon in each hand. ... This one is corner case. Because it says melee weapon in each hand, a shield is not a melee weapon, unless the DM says it is similar to an actual weapon, I would say NO bonus AC by the rules (but I would allow it in my game as a hr)</p><p></p><p>You can two-weapon fight even when the one-handed melee weapons you are wielding aren’t light. This is one lets you use a non-light weapon as your bonus attack. Without this feat by the way two-weapon fighting is worded you wouldn't normally be able normally do that.</p><p></p><p>Tavern Brawler you can get proficiency bonus and you don't need a nice DM to let you have it, you get it.</p><p></p><p>I dont know if getting that 1d4 Bonus damage is that great to be honest. I would rather take Duelist and always get the +2 damage when using a shield. Duelist says you can't have another weapon in your off-hand and a shield is not a weapon (unless you're using it as a improvised one).</p><p></p><p>Under Lizardfolk it doesnt say they loose they AC bonus when they attack with their Spiked Shield .. but Monsters don't follow PC rules, but that is the only place I have seen an attack with a shield.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wrathamon, post: 6376571, member: 7989"] Nothing says you loose the AC bonus when using a shield as an improvised weapon. Only time you dont get the AC bonus is if you're not wielding it in one hand or if you are wielding a second one. The general rule: Wielding a shield increases your AC by 2 and you can only benefit form only one shield at a time (so no +4 ac with dual wielding 2 shields). Used in one hand. The exception rules: Improvised Weapons rule that let you use an object that bears no resemblance to a weapon as one and it deal 1d4 damage but you get no proficiency. AND: DMs option to allow proficiency if they feel it is similar to another weapon. Two-Weapon Fighting ... EDIT: Both weapons have to be light. The weapon you start the attack with must be a light weapon and the bonus attack must also be a light weapon. Two-Weapon Fighting Style ... you get your bonus damage At this point with out Feats EDIT You cannot make a improvised weapon (shield) attack as a bonus attack because it is not a light weapon. You can't attack with the shield and a light bonus attack, because the shield is not a light weapon. With Feats ... +1 bonus to AC while you are wielding a separate melee weapon in each hand. ... This one is corner case. Because it says melee weapon in each hand, a shield is not a melee weapon, unless the DM says it is similar to an actual weapon, I would say NO bonus AC by the rules (but I would allow it in my game as a hr) You can two-weapon fight even when the one-handed melee weapons you are wielding aren’t light. This is one lets you use a non-light weapon as your bonus attack. Without this feat by the way two-weapon fighting is worded you wouldn't normally be able normally do that. Tavern Brawler you can get proficiency bonus and you don't need a nice DM to let you have it, you get it. I dont know if getting that 1d4 Bonus damage is that great to be honest. I would rather take Duelist and always get the +2 damage when using a shield. Duelist says you can't have another weapon in your off-hand and a shield is not a weapon (unless you're using it as a improvised one). Under Lizardfolk it doesnt say they loose they AC bonus when they attack with their Spiked Shield .. but Monsters don't follow PC rules, but that is the only place I have seen an attack with a shield. [/QUOTE]
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