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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S_Dalsgaard" data-source="post: 6592260" data-attributes="member: 6785541"><p>Seeing some of the posts here makes me think, that the way I imagine someone using a shield as an improvised weapon differs from how other people see it. When I imagine an attack with a shield, I see the wielder making a wild swing with it, which then makes him wide open for attacks. As someone described it, he saw it as more of a push (to get someone of a bridge, I think), in which case it makes sense to retain the bonus to AC, but in that case I wouldn't let it do any damage. I think that if you bash hard enough with a shield for it to count as an improvised weapon attack, you are leaving yourself more open to counter attacks in that round. This is of course IMHO and YMMV.</p></blockquote><p></p>