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<blockquote data-quote="melkoriii" data-source="post: 422652" data-attributes="member: 2162">Yes I have used a Sling before in the SCA.Also in my physics class mechanical energy was discussed and two examples they used for leverage were the Foot for Spears and the Sling.&nbsp; Both do exactly the same thing.&nbsp; Extend the length of your arm to get more throwing energy. Granted I have only dabbled with a whip but I do know that one main use of a Whip is to keep foes away from you, ie AoO.&nbsp; But in D&amp;D 3ed anyone can run right up and you cant do anything.12’ Bullwhips do have a 15’ reach though.The gripe I have with the rules is that it’s a ranged weapon. So you cant use melee feats with it, yet they say you can Trip and Disarm with it, tho ranged weapons can no do ether. Then The Lasher PrCl says you can Flank with a whip (Under the sneak attack ability you get a 1st lvl in the errata, note that this ability can only be used with a whip or whip-dagger), But you cant Flank with a ranged weapon.&nbsp; If you can because of the PrCl, at what range? They don’t say. So what melee feats can you use and what cant you use.I don’t even want to get into that a weapon that NEEDS a PrCl to make it viable (Let alone a Exotic Weapon) is just wong.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="melkoriii, post: 422652, member: 2162"] Yes I have used a Sling before in the SCA. Also in my physics class mechanical energy was discussed and two examples they used for leverage were the Foot for Spears and the Sling. Both do exactly the same thing. Extend the length of your arm to get more throwing energy. Granted I have only dabbled with a whip but I do know that one main use of a Whip is to keep foes away from you, ie AoO. But in D&D 3ed anyone can run right up and you cant do anything. 12’ Bullwhips do have a 15’ reach though. The gripe I have with the rules is that it’s a ranged weapon. So you cant use melee feats with it, yet they say you can Trip and Disarm with it, tho ranged weapons can no do ether. Then The Lasher PrCl says you can Flank with a whip (Under the sneak attack ability you get a 1st lvl in the errata, note that this ability can only be used with a whip or whip-dagger), But you cant Flank with a ranged weapon. If you can because of the PrCl, at what range? They don’t say. So what melee feats can you use and what cant you use. I don’t even want to get into that a weapon that NEEDS a PrCl to make it viable (Let alone a Exotic Weapon) is just wong. [/QUOTE]

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