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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 3941067" data-attributes="member: 2067">I kind of disagree. While I wouldn't have any major problems rolling the duergar into the dwarves, the duergar are at least as distinct from dwarves as drow are from elves.I mean, what do duergar have that dwarves do not? Some psionic powers inherent to growing big and being invisible.What do drow have that elves do not? Some magic powers inherent to floating around and making lights.If Drow get their own entry, duergar have earned theirs as well. If a drow's spidery motif is firm enough to suspend a different racial entry for, then a duergar's "cold metal" motif is. Or, it can be, but it has mostly been ignored because drow are sexier. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Industrial dwarves who psionically hulk out and can sneak around undetected by your senses are at least as different from "for clan and king!" dwarves who wield axes as spidery elves who magically float and can poison you are from tree-hugging fey critters who shoot arrows.They don't need to be any more ambitious, they just have to make sure the differences that are there matter.</blockquote>