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<blockquote data-quote="Chacal" data-source="post: 779431" data-attributes="member: 1349"><p>I also liked the 2nd ed Demi human deities and I think that </p><p>domains aren't giving the flexibility we had. I'm not sure that PrC will solve all the problems and sometimes It might be more usful to use variant base classes.</p><p></p><p>In Dumathoin case, that seems ok because it was a militant cleric (D8, all armors and weapons).</p><p>But it was very limited in spheres, and that was an important balancing factor.</p><p>I'm afraid that giving a PrC all the cleric progression (HD, saves, spells) which is considered by many a strong class, </p><p>and adding powers on top of it makes a really unbalanced PrC. </p><p>The silence ability is cool but IMO giving it at will is huge and makes this PrC a mage killer.</p><p></p><p>I would limit its use on a daily basis.</p><p>The way you calculate the DC for tremor is vastly superior to most abilities I know, by counting twice some of the levels.</p><p></p><p>I would add the following requirements : Stone Domain, </p><p>Diplomacy 5 ranks (They're decribed as negociators with other races)</p><p>and I don't think they need armor and weapon crafts as they're more guardians than artisans. YMMV.</p><p></p><p>As a way to balance the benefits, I will try the following restrictions :</p><p>they must prepare one stone or divination spell at every slot level.</p><p>Dumathoin didn't give turn undead in 2e, so I'm rather surprised to see it in this PrC, I would try to power some of the abilities by channeling, and removing the turn undead.</p><p></p><p>I know that these looks like drastics changes, but you did ask for comments <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p></p><p>Chacal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chacal, post: 779431, member: 1349"] I also liked the 2nd ed Demi human deities and I think that domains aren't giving the flexibility we had. I'm not sure that PrC will solve all the problems and sometimes It might be more usful to use variant base classes. In Dumathoin case, that seems ok because it was a militant cleric (D8, all armors and weapons). But it was very limited in spheres, and that was an important balancing factor. I'm afraid that giving a PrC all the cleric progression (HD, saves, spells) which is considered by many a strong class, and adding powers on top of it makes a really unbalanced PrC. The silence ability is cool but IMO giving it at will is huge and makes this PrC a mage killer. I would limit its use on a daily basis. The way you calculate the DC for tremor is vastly superior to most abilities I know, by counting twice some of the levels. I would add the following requirements : Stone Domain, Diplomacy 5 ranks (They're decribed as negociators with other races) and I don't think they need armor and weapon crafts as they're more guardians than artisans. YMMV. As a way to balance the benefits, I will try the following restrictions : they must prepare one stone or divination spell at every slot level. Dumathoin didn't give turn undead in 2e, so I'm rather surprised to see it in this PrC, I would try to power some of the abilities by channeling, and removing the turn undead. I know that these looks like drastics changes, but you did ask for comments :-) Chacal [/QUOTE]
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