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Message: <blockquote data-quote="evildmguy" data-source="post: 1591551" data-attributes="member: 6092">Greetings!First of all, msd saidI am a big CC2 fan but I would be remiss if I didn't point out that NBOS also has a mapping program as well.  In fact, ProFantasy was working on a new program to make maps of the galaxy but held off in response to NBOS' AstroSynthesis.  So, there is more than CC2 in terms of mapping programs.  This doesn't include at least two freeware mapping programs as well.  After having said that, I like CC2 better.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  Again, this is not completely true.  NBOS has pretty much been at $40, with some discounts of up to $8, since I became aware of them several years ago.  I think it was in response to NBOS that ProFantasy made their own pricing change.  I don't know for sure but I thought this was also not long after ProFantasy products were available at RPGNow.  Anyone have the exact timeline on this?  Again, as I said above, ProFantasy seems to be reacting to NBOS and what they have been doing as they are a direct competitor.    I am not sure what to think of this in terms of the rlxp you suggest between ProFantasy's products and Fluid.  On the one hand, CC2 is NOT supposed to be graphical.  I have seen some add ons, though, such as the harn world project, that can make some very nice looking CC2 maps.  OTOH, I do know they are working on a graphical version of their program which looks freakin' beautiful!  I think that PF is more interested in expanding their base and adding in more functionality.  I think this is a good thing because I am not sure what else they could do in their mapping program.  (Maybe modern or SciFi feel but some of that does exist for CC2.)  I also think this will help their program appeal to more people, which is a good thing for them as well.  The question then becomes, would they have done this on their own without such programs as AstroSynthesis and Dundjinni?I do agree that competition is nice and it warms my heart, while draining my checking account, that ProFantasy is going to respond to these things.  I am more than willing to wait for what ProFantasy does because of their track record.  Good discussion!  Thanks!Have a good one!  Take care!edgAlternity pimp</blockquote>

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