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Message: <blockquote data-quote="evildmguy" data-source="post: 1600535" data-attributes="member: 6092">First of all, in response to Trainz, there is a setting in CC2, Smart Icon?, that automatically does exactly what you said above.  It rotates and lines up an icon with a line.  So, that is possible in CC2 and I am not an expert with it by any means!  (Admittedly, it might be in the City Designer expansion, I don't know for sure.  Try the mailing list if you want to find out.)  Second, I looked at Dundjinni and even though I have CC2, I really wanted to like it.  However, several things stopped me from buying it.- Price.  CC2 is now half the price of the platinum version of Dundjinni, has as many symbols if not more and can do a thousand times more, even if not as pretty.  (btw, PF is working on the "pretty versions" of their maps for a release later this year, last I heard.)  Also, I can get the city or dungeon add on with CC2 for the same price as platinum Dundjinni and have all that added functionality as well.  Further, the art packs are looking expensive.  It will take a long time before I have the same symbols as what I have for CC2.  And, both have free symbols and map sharing, so that's a plus for both that detracts from neither one.  - Ability.  I agree that Dundjinni looks much better than CC2 for maps.  Gorgeous maps.  However, Dundjinni looks like it can only do small locales.  Also, there is no linking that I saw in the demo to go from map to map as the PCs move.  (I admit it might be there but I didn't see it.)  In CC2, you can always zoom out further if needed.  You can probably zoom in pretty far as well but that will have less usefulness much faster.  CC2 can do maps, towns, dungeons, characters, dioramas and more.  CC2 can do heraldry.  I didn't see the ability to do any of these, without really pusing what Dundjinni was intended to do.  So, it was really close for me but these two items, and to some extent Fluid's reputation with eTools, kept me with CC2.  This isn't to say that Dundjinni is bad!  It merely isn't the tool for me, given what it can currently do, cost and what I already had.  (I do cross over in many areas.  CC2 can do heraldry but I bought another program to handle heraldry because it does it better.)  Again, I am not saying Dundjinni is bad or that people shouldn't buy it.  Buy the tool that will help your game!  Whatever it is!  This wasn't for me.  Good discussion!  Thanks!Have a good one!  Take care!edg</blockquote>

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