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<blockquote data-quote="Pants" data-source="post: 3438642" data-attributes="member: 8849"><p>Yep, I like the idea of the klurichir, but the mechanics as written are horrible. I have no problem having a class of tanar'ri being tougher than the balor and I don't see much overlap between the molydeus and the klurichir, flavor or mechanics wise, but that might be because the molydeus has much more flavor devoted to it and it has had two editions to grow into its role whereas the Klurichir has had only 2.25 books. So obviously, the molydeus wins on that one. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I don't think that retconning the klurichir into a 'weaker than the Balor' type of being is necessarily the best way. The better way, imo, is to find a way to make the klurichir work in its role as an uber-powerful demon/tanar'ri. It's easy to ignore what you don't like, it's harder and, in my opinion, more rewarding to identify its strengths and weaknesses and make it work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pants, post: 3438642, member: 8849"] Yep, I like the idea of the klurichir, but the mechanics as written are horrible. I have no problem having a class of tanar'ri being tougher than the balor and I don't see much overlap between the molydeus and the klurichir, flavor or mechanics wise, but that might be because the molydeus has much more flavor devoted to it and it has had two editions to grow into its role whereas the Klurichir has had only 2.25 books. So obviously, the molydeus wins on that one. :) I don't think that retconning the klurichir into a 'weaker than the Balor' type of being is necessarily the best way. The better way, imo, is to find a way to make the klurichir work in its role as an uber-powerful demon/tanar'ri. It's easy to ignore what you don't like, it's harder and, in my opinion, more rewarding to identify its strengths and weaknesses and make it work. [/QUOTE]
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