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<blockquote data-quote="Razz" data-source="post: 3686009" data-attributes="member: 3014"><p>I totally agree with <strong>Wolfspider</strong> on the issue.</p><p></p><p>WotC has already explained their reason why they can't say much. They're under NDA and it simply was not the right time to announce it. But they had to. </p><p></p><p>If they had it their way, they would've announced it all at GenCon when the last issues came in. But they couldn't wait until then, for business reasons on both ends, so they had to release the news early. More information is coming in a couple of weeks.</p><p></p><p>What you people seem to lack is patience. Give them the time they need. They stated themselves that they're still working out the kinks. </p><p></p><p>What I find ironic is the same people bashing WotC are the same ones buying their newest release to enhance their D&D games...and the same people playing their games. Yes, there are things I wish WotC did and they don't and probably never will do. But I don't boycott buying all their products because of it. I am upset Dragon and Dungeon are gone. I agree leaving it an online-only thing is unfair for some. </p><p></p><p>I really don't want 4E to ever come in my lifetime, but it's going to happen anyway. Does that mean I should bash WotC and call them uncaring and unprofessional because of it? Does that mean I should stop buying WotC products now because they're going to one day release a whole new edition of a game that I believe has nothing horrifyingly wrong with it? (at least, not anything wrong that the gamers themselves can't easily fix with house rules, Unearthed Arcana, and 3rd party products)</p><p></p><p>I'm going to support the online Dragon and Dungeon just like I supported the print version. If everything's going to be the same, I don't have to worry about content and quality. What they really snagged me on was the word "MORE" because they're not limited by print. I'm a sucker for MORE of the same stuff I was originally getting. Most people should be. Sure, a nice soft copy of a magazine in your hands is a great feeling, but in the long run I really don't think the lot of us would like to haul off 300+ magazines everywhere we go. At least I don't. (If you do, then, that's really strange but more power to ya)</p><p></p><p>That's how good Dragon/Dungeon was. They were great enough to want to lug them around. When I went out to DM, I would do my best to take with me as many of my magazines as I could so the players can look through them for inspiration and fun during sessions or after sessions. Of course, the logical thing would be to have them game at my house, but circumstances sometimes come up and you're stuck leaving the "headquarters" of your gaming table. But I also have 80+ D&D books to lug about as well. </p><p></p><p>Electronic formats have their advantages. They're just gearing up for the future. It won't be long before laptops are affordable and everyone has Internet connection. Then all of this wouldn't be so bad. There's already a city wiring itself up so the entire city has wireless connection! And I am pretty sure WotC said your stuff can be PRINTED. Sure, costs for ink would be horrendous, maybe, but I don't think you'd be printing EVERYTHING in the DI. Just what you need for your games. </p><p></p><p>I hope the reason no one is giving DI the benefit of the doubt is not because you're no longer able to read the magazine while you're sitting on the toilet...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Razz, post: 3686009, member: 3014"] I totally agree with [B]Wolfspider[/B] on the issue. WotC has already explained their reason why they can't say much. They're under NDA and it simply was not the right time to announce it. But they had to. If they had it their way, they would've announced it all at GenCon when the last issues came in. But they couldn't wait until then, for business reasons on both ends, so they had to release the news early. More information is coming in a couple of weeks. What you people seem to lack is patience. Give them the time they need. They stated themselves that they're still working out the kinks. What I find ironic is the same people bashing WotC are the same ones buying their newest release to enhance their D&D games...and the same people playing their games. Yes, there are things I wish WotC did and they don't and probably never will do. But I don't boycott buying all their products because of it. I am upset Dragon and Dungeon are gone. I agree leaving it an online-only thing is unfair for some. I really don't want 4E to ever come in my lifetime, but it's going to happen anyway. Does that mean I should bash WotC and call them uncaring and unprofessional because of it? Does that mean I should stop buying WotC products now because they're going to one day release a whole new edition of a game that I believe has nothing horrifyingly wrong with it? (at least, not anything wrong that the gamers themselves can't easily fix with house rules, Unearthed Arcana, and 3rd party products) I'm going to support the online Dragon and Dungeon just like I supported the print version. If everything's going to be the same, I don't have to worry about content and quality. What they really snagged me on was the word "MORE" because they're not limited by print. I'm a sucker for MORE of the same stuff I was originally getting. Most people should be. Sure, a nice soft copy of a magazine in your hands is a great feeling, but in the long run I really don't think the lot of us would like to haul off 300+ magazines everywhere we go. At least I don't. (If you do, then, that's really strange but more power to ya) That's how good Dragon/Dungeon was. They were great enough to want to lug them around. When I went out to DM, I would do my best to take with me as many of my magazines as I could so the players can look through them for inspiration and fun during sessions or after sessions. Of course, the logical thing would be to have them game at my house, but circumstances sometimes come up and you're stuck leaving the "headquarters" of your gaming table. But I also have 80+ D&D books to lug about as well. Electronic formats have their advantages. They're just gearing up for the future. It won't be long before laptops are affordable and everyone has Internet connection. Then all of this wouldn't be so bad. There's already a city wiring itself up so the entire city has wireless connection! And I am pretty sure WotC said your stuff can be PRINTED. Sure, costs for ink would be horrendous, maybe, but I don't think you'd be printing EVERYTHING in the DI. Just what you need for your games. I hope the reason no one is giving DI the benefit of the doubt is not because you're no longer able to read the magazine while you're sitting on the toilet... [/QUOTE]
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