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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 911977" data-attributes="member: 2572">The claim keeps being made that Dungeon is the best value for your adventure dollar. I had posted something similar to this a few months ago. This is updated to include some info I didn’t include then or guessed at.  I am still estimating some things and if anyone wants to provide more info about issues 98 and 100 I will update appropriately. Dungeon is still the best value but now the difference is closing. The price per adventure page has gone from less than half of a module to equal to the cheaper mega-adventures while the small Dungeon issues for non-subscribers are more than the mega-adventures but still somewhat less than the small adventures. I have no idea how much advertising revenue impacts the price per page compared to individual adventures so the actual values from a publisher’s point of view may be different. This is just a look at per page of adventure, if you value the Poly side then its value is still even higher. My personal opinions as to its value to me can be found after the breakdown.----------------------WotCThe Sunless Citadel: B&WThe Forge of Fury: B&WThe Speaker in Dreams: B&WThe Standing Stone: B&WHeart of Nightfang Spire: B&WDeep Horizon: B&W32 pages + Inside Front Cover + Inside Back Cover =34 pages @ $9.95 = $0.293/pageLord of the Iron Fortress: B&WBastion of Broken Souls: B&W48 pages + Inside Front Cover + Inside Back Cover =50 pages @ $9.95 = $0.199/pageInto the Dragon’s Lair: B&W96 pages @ $17.95 = $0.187/pageCity of the Spider Queen: Color175 pages/176 pages @ $29.95 = $0.171/page (+1 page of ads)Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil: B&W with Color Maps206 pages/208 pages @ $29.95 = $0.145/page (+2 pages of ads)Malhavoc PressThe Banewarrens: B&W127 pages/128 pages @ $17.95 = $0.141/page (+1 page of ads)Goodman GamesIdylls of the Rat King: B&W32 pages + Inside Front Cover + Inside Back Cover =34 pages @ $11.00 = $0.324/pageDungeonIssue 93: Color79 pages/113 pages @ $5.99 = $0.076/pageIssue 95: Color76 pages/100 pages @ $7.99 = $0.105/pageIssue 96: Color80 pages/97 pages @ $7.99 = $0.100/pageIssue 97: Color116 pages/131 pages @ $7.99 = $0.069/pageIssue 98: Color (Did not purchase, estimate from information posted)50 pages/60 pages @ $6.99 = $0.140/pageIssue 99: Color (Did not purchase, estimate from information posted with subscription bonus)45 pages/55 pages @ $6.99 = $0.155/pageIssue 99: Color (Did not purchase, estimate from information posted without subscription bonus)30 pages/40 pages @ $6.99 = $0.233/pageIssue 100: Color (Did not purchase, estimate from information posted)80 pages/100 pages @ $6.99 = $0.087/page----------------------{Personal Opinion}Does anyone else remember when Dungeon was uncontroversial and did not have former readers mad at it? You may not have purchased it but that was due to not wanting adventures rather than editorial decisions.I have no use for Poly so I only care about Dungeon personally. I didn’t mind the Poly content as long as it didn’t interfere with my Dungeon content. I stopped buying at 97 since the value to me was now close enough that I decided that the amount of stuff I don’t want (any collection of several unknown articles/adventures will often contain parts I am not interested in) made the value for my dollar better spent on individual adventures that I want. I stated in previous threads that I was willing to go up to $10 for an issue for a continuation of the 94-97 format. This would come out to:Proposed Dungeon: Color 80 pages/100 pages @ $9.99 = $0.125/pageI am curious as to  Johnny Wilson’s comment “IF Dungeon/Polyhedron is still viable by Origins and GenCon time, I will listen to you all at the Paizo at the Mike conferences. “ Does this mean that Dungeon/Poly are not out of the woods even with the format change? What if Dungeon is not viable in 2 months? This will give it 4-5 issues at new format, while it was only 4 issues at old format higher prices before further changes were needed.  Even more so if Dungeon/Poly is not viable at Origins/GenCon shouldn’t Mr. Wilson want input from his readers on what they want/will accept in order to make Dungeon viable, rather than making another editorial decision without input. Apparently the decisions made so far without input have not worked so well, so if Dungeon/Poly is not viable by Origins/GenCon what makes him think that ignoring the readers again will work better this time?{End Personal Opinion}</blockquote>

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