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<blockquote data-quote="Guacamole" data-source="post: 919678" data-attributes="member: 1606">The B&amp;W issue...I don't buy it...If I recall correctly from looking at my stacks of oop dungeons from the late nineties, the magazine had a clean-cut black and white look, but still was able to come up with full color adds.&nbsp; So I don't buy it when people say &quot;the magazines gotta be in color for the ads.&quot;&nbsp; It doesn't add up. With respect to newstand issues, has the magazine ever been an impulse-off-the-newstand buy?&nbsp; When I first bought dungeon it was because I knew what I was doing, and if I ever buy it, its based on content, not flashiness of presentation.&nbsp; That's just me though- I'm sure there are people who do buy product based on placement and color.&nbsp; I think part of the problem then, is that the magazine becomes something that it never was- in trying to broaden its appeal it becomes watered down from the original content.&nbsp; I think that's what frustrates people who have been long-time supporters of the magazine.&nbsp; I personally would rather see more adds to pay for more dungeon content rather than fewer adds and have the magazine tank because it has to be made into some sort of hybrid to attract off-the-shelf buys, which I'm doubtful are working anyway because we know now that the magazine is in some dire straights.&nbsp; Maybe the best thing to do would be to make Dungeon magazine the PDF.&nbsp; If that got content back to its original quality and levels I think it would be worth it.&nbsp; If that happened I would never read poly.&nbsp; Its something I read for being in dungeon, not because I would seek it out and read it anyway.&nbsp;&nbsp; fwiwguacamole</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guacamole, post: 919678, member: 1606"] [b]The B&W issue...I don't buy it...[/b] If I recall correctly from looking at my stacks of oop dungeons from the late nineties, the magazine had a clean-cut black and white look, but still was able to come up with full color adds. So I don't buy it when people say "the magazines gotta be in color for the ads." It doesn't add up. With respect to newstand issues, has the magazine ever been an impulse-off-the-newstand buy? When I first bought dungeon it was because I knew what I was doing, and if I ever buy it, its based on content, not flashiness of presentation. That's just me though- I'm sure there are people who do buy product based on placement and color. I think part of the problem then, is that the magazine becomes something that it never was- in trying to broaden its appeal it becomes watered down from the original content. I think that's what frustrates people who have been long-time supporters of the magazine. I personally would rather see more adds to pay for more dungeon content rather than fewer adds and have the magazine tank because it has to be made into some sort of hybrid to attract off-the-shelf buys, which I'm doubtful are working anyway because we know now that the magazine is in some dire straights. Maybe the best thing to do would be to make Dungeon magazine the PDF. If that got content back to its original quality and levels I think it would be worth it. If that happened I would never read poly. Its something I read for being in dungeon, not because I would seek it out and read it anyway. fwiw guacamole [/QUOTE]

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