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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 2229531" data-attributes="member: 29252">I'm running my first ECL 12 game (Core only), and was thinking of inserting a CL 14 BBEG - a dungeon builder (somebody has to build all those dungeons - I think this build could do much of it), with the idea that everything he does could be done by a similarly built PC of the same level; here's what I have so far; any suggestions / problems / comments / snide remarks / suggestions for more strategies he can follow without removing the current ones?Elven, Sorceror 14Gear: 45k&nbsp; Worn: &nbsp; &nbsp; Cloak of Charisma +4 (16 k)&nbsp; &nbsp; Peripat of Wisdom +2 (4 k)&nbsp; &nbsp; Gloves of Dexterity +2 (4 k)&nbsp; &nbsp; Amulet of Health +2 (4k)&nbsp; &nbsp; Light Mithral Shield +1 (2,009 gp)&nbsp; &nbsp; Handy Haversack (2000 gp)&nbsp; &nbsp; Spell Components Pouch *2 (10 gp)&nbsp; &nbsp; Masterwork Continual Flame Dagger (412 gp)&nbsp; &nbsp; Hat of Disguise (1,800)&nbsp; &nbsp; Ring of Sustenance (2,500)&nbsp; &nbsp; Ring of Feather Falling (2,200)&nbsp; Carried In Haversack:&nbsp; &nbsp; Scrying Mirror (1,000 gp, 2x4 ft in size)&nbsp; &nbsp; 3,069 gp&nbsp; &nbsp; Diamond Dust (for Nondetection): 1,000 gpStats:&nbsp; Elite Array: 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8; &nbsp; Starting: Str 13, Dex 10, Con 12, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 15&nbsp; Level-Based Stat increases: 4th, 8th, 12th: +3 Cha&nbsp; Racial Adjustments: +2 Dex, -2 Con&nbsp; Natural Stats: Str 13, Dex 12, Con 6, Int 12, Wis 14, Cha 18&nbsp; Enhanced Stats: Str 13, Dex 14, Con 8, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 22Feats:&nbsp;1 Eschew Materials&nbsp;3 Still Spell&nbsp;6 Extend Spell&nbsp;9 Silent Spell12 Enlarge SpellAbilities:&nbsp; Sorceror: Summon Familiar (unused as of yet)&nbsp; Elf: &nbsp; &nbsp; Immunity to magic sleep effects&nbsp; &nbsp; +2 racial saving throw bonus against enchantment spells or effects.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Low-Light Vision: An elf can see twice as far as a human in starlight, moonlight, torchlight, and similar conditions of poor illumination. She retains the ability to distinguish color and detail under these conditions. Weapon Proficiency: Elves receive the Martial Weapon Proficiency feats for the longsword, rapier, longbow (including composite longbow), and shortbow (including composite shortbow) as bonus feats. &nbsp; &nbsp; +2 racial bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks. An elf who merely passes within 5 feet of a secret or concealed door is entitled to a Search check to notice it as if she were actively looking for it. &nbsp; &nbsp; Automatic Languages: Common and Elven. &nbsp; &nbsp; Bonus Languages: Draconic, Gnoll, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, and Sylvan.&nbsp; Skills: 17*(2+Int Mod)=17*3=51&nbsp; Spellcraft: 17&nbsp; Concentration: 17&nbsp; Knoweledge (Arcana): 17Languages:&nbsp; Common, Elven (automatic)&nbsp; Draconic (bonus)BAB of +8/+3Base Saves: &nbsp; Fort: 4&nbsp; Ref:&nbsp; 4&nbsp; Will: 9After Stats:&nbsp; Fort: 3&nbsp; Ref:&nbsp; 6&nbsp; Will: 12Sorceror Spells Known:&nbsp; &nbsp; 0th - Known: 9; Per-day: 6 (6 base)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Resistance:&nbsp; Subject gains +1 on saving throws&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Detect Magic:&nbsp; Detects spells and magic items within 60 ft&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Read Magic:&nbsp; Read scrolls and spellbooks&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Message:&nbsp; Whispered conversation at distance&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dancing Lights:&nbsp; Creates torches or other lights&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Ray of Frost:&nbsp; Ray deals 1d3 cold damage&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Acid Splash:&nbsp; Orb deals 1d3 acid damage&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Disrupt Undead:&nbsp; Deals 1d6 damage to one undead&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mage Hand:&nbsp; 5-pound telekinesis&nbsp; &nbsp; 1st - Known: 5; Per-day: 8 (6 base, 2 bonus)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Protection From Law:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +2 to AC and saves, counter mind control, hedge out elementals and outsiders.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Shield:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Invisible disc gives +4 to AC, blocks magic missiles.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mage Armor:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Gives subject +4 armor bonus.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; True Strike:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +20 on your next attack roll.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Charm Person:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Makes one person your friend.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2nd - Known: 5; Per-day:8 (6 base, 2 bonus)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Protection From Arrows:&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Subject immune to most ranged attacks.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Resist Energy:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Ignores first 10 (or more) points of damage/attack from specified energy type.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; See Invisibility:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Reveals invisible creatures or objects.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Invisibility:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Subject is invisible for 1 min./level or until it attacks.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Command Undead:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Undead creature obeys your commands (will).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3th - Known: 4; Per-day:8 (6 base, 1 bonus)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Magic Circle Against Evil:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Magic Circle Against Good:&nbsp; &nbsp; Tongues&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Nondetection:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4th - Known: 4; Per-day:7 (6 base, 1 bonus)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dimensional Anchor&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Scrying&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Stone Shape&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Illusory Wall&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5th - Known: 3; Per-day: 7 (6 base, 1 bonus)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dismissal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Overland Flight&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Wall of Stone&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6th - Known: 2; Per-day:6 (5 base, 1 bonus)Planar Binding (Cha check DC 33 for diagram - 15 base + 5 diagram + 1/2 caster level (14/2=7) + 6 Sorceror's Cha bonus; no SR, No Teleporting (Dimensional Anchor))&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Disintigrate&nbsp; &nbsp; 7th - Known: 1; Per-day:3 (3 base, 0 bonus)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Teleport, GreaterFavorite Bindings:&nbsp; Astral Deva: 12 HD, CR 14, good&nbsp; Ghaele: 10 HD, CR 13, good&nbsp; Demons (medium or smaller):&nbsp; &nbsp; Babu: 7 HD, CR 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (1/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Dretch: 2 HD, CR 2 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (3/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Quasit: 3 HD, CR 2 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (3/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Succubus: 6 HD, CR 7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (2/casting)&nbsp; Devils (medium or smaller):&nbsp; &nbsp; Barbed Devil: 12 HD, CR 11&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (1/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Bearded Devil: 6 HD, CR 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (2/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Chain Devil: 8 HD, CR 6 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (1/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Erinys: 9 HD, CR 8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (1/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Imp: 3 HD, CR 2 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (3/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Lemure: 2 HD, CR 1 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (3/casting)&nbsp; Night Hag: 8 HD, CR 9 (not teleport, but etherial)&nbsp; &nbsp; (1/casting)&nbsp; Elementals:&nbsp; &nbsp; Medium Air: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (3/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Medium Earth: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (3/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Medium Fire: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (3/casting)&nbsp; &nbsp; Medium Water: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (3/casting)&nbsp; Hell Hound: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (3/casting)Methods:&nbsp; Establish Stronghold (Disintigrate, Wall of Stone, Stone Shape, Illusory Wall)Leave a few of the no teleporting critters Magic Circled and Diagramed in places where they will be encountered if someone comes by&nbsp; Leave a few Small Fire Elementals stuck in Magic Circles... forever .... for the light.&nbsp; Have bound demons and devils go steal stuffIf someone interferes, bind several demons/devils, scry the interferee's, invis all the demons/devils, Greater Teleport with several of them to the interferee's, have the demons/devils attack, and leave to let them sort it out ... and scry the results.Ranged Touch Attack: [1d20+10]Touch Attack: [1d20+9]He can make pit traps with Disintigrate and Illusory wall, doors with Stone Shape (doesn't matter if he has to repeat the process a time or two, he has time) or illusory wall.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 2229531, member: 29252"] I'm running my first ECL 12 game (Core only), and was thinking of inserting a CL 14 BBEG - a dungeon builder (somebody has to build all those dungeons - I think this build could do much of it), with the idea that everything he does could be done by a similarly built PC of the same level; here's what I have so far; any suggestions / problems / comments / snide remarks / suggestions for more strategies he can follow without removing the current ones? Elven, Sorceror 14 Gear: 45k Worn: Cloak of Charisma +4 (16 k) Peripat of Wisdom +2 (4 k) Gloves of Dexterity +2 (4 k) Amulet of Health +2 (4k) Light Mithral Shield +1 (2,009 gp) Handy Haversack (2000 gp) Spell Components Pouch *2 (10 gp) Masterwork Continual Flame Dagger (412 gp) Hat of Disguise (1,800) Ring of Sustenance (2,500) Ring of Feather Falling (2,200) Carried In Haversack: Scrying Mirror (1,000 gp, 2x4 ft in size) 3,069 gp Diamond Dust (for Nondetection): 1,000 gp Stats: Elite Array: 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8; Starting: Str 13, Dex 10, Con 12, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 15 Level-Based Stat increases: 4th, 8th, 12th: +3 Cha Racial Adjustments: +2 Dex, -2 Con Natural Stats: Str 13, Dex 12, Con 6, Int 12, Wis 14, Cha 18 Enhanced Stats: Str 13, Dex 14, Con 8, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 22 Feats: 1 Eschew Materials 3 Still Spell 6 Extend Spell 9 Silent Spell 12 Enlarge Spell Abilities: Sorceror: Summon Familiar (unused as of yet) Elf: Immunity to magic sleep effects +2 racial saving throw bonus against enchantment spells or effects. Low-Light Vision: An elf can see twice as far as a human in starlight, moonlight, torchlight, and similar conditions of poor illumination. She retains the ability to distinguish color and detail under these conditions. Weapon Proficiency: Elves receive the Martial Weapon Proficiency feats for the longsword, rapier, longbow (including composite longbow), and shortbow (including composite shortbow) as bonus feats. +2 racial bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks. An elf who merely passes within 5 feet of a secret or concealed door is entitled to a Search check to notice it as if she were actively looking for it. Automatic Languages: Common and Elven. Bonus Languages: Draconic, Gnoll, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, and Sylvan. Skills: 17*(2+Int Mod)=17*3=51 Spellcraft: 17 Concentration: 17 Knoweledge (Arcana): 17 Languages: Common, Elven (automatic) Draconic (bonus) BAB of +8/+3 Base Saves: Fort: 4 Ref: 4 Will: 9 After Stats: Fort: 3 Ref: 6 Will: 12 Sorceror Spells Known: 0th - Known: 9; Per-day: 6 (6 base) Resistance: Subject gains +1 on saving throws Detect Magic: Detects spells and magic items within 60 ft Read Magic: Read scrolls and spellbooks Message: Whispered conversation at distance Dancing Lights: Creates torches or other lights Ray of Frost: Ray deals 1d3 cold damage Acid Splash: Orb deals 1d3 acid damage Disrupt Undead: Deals 1d6 damage to one undead Mage Hand: 5-pound telekinesis 1st - Known: 5; Per-day: 8 (6 base, 2 bonus) Protection From Law: +2 to AC and saves, counter mind control, hedge out elementals and outsiders. Shield: Invisible disc gives +4 to AC, blocks magic missiles. Mage Armor: Gives subject +4 armor bonus. True Strike: +20 on your next attack roll. Charm Person: Makes one person your friend. 2nd - Known: 5; Per-day:8 (6 base, 2 bonus) Protection From Arrows: Subject immune to most ranged attacks. Resist Energy: Ignores first 10 (or more) points of damage/attack from specified energy type. See Invisibility: Reveals invisible creatures or objects. Invisibility: Subject is invisible for 1 min./level or until it attacks. Command Undead: Undead creature obeys your commands (will). 3th - Known: 4; Per-day:8 (6 base, 1 bonus) Magic Circle Against Evil: Magic Circle Against Good: Tongues Nondetection: 4th - Known: 4; Per-day:7 (6 base, 1 bonus) Dimensional Anchor Scrying Stone Shape Illusory Wall 5th - Known: 3; Per-day: 7 (6 base, 1 bonus) Dismissal Overland Flight Wall of Stone 6th - Known: 2; Per-day:6 (5 base, 1 bonus) Planar Binding (Cha check DC 33 for diagram - 15 base + 5 diagram + 1/2 caster level (14/2=7) + 6 Sorceror's Cha bonus; no SR, No Teleporting (Dimensional Anchor)) Disintigrate 7th - Known: 1; Per-day:3 (3 base, 0 bonus) Teleport, Greater Favorite Bindings: Astral Deva: 12 HD, CR 14, good Ghaele: 10 HD, CR 13, good Demons (medium or smaller): Babu: 7 HD, CR 6 (1/casting) Dretch: 2 HD, CR 2 (no teleporting) (3/casting) Quasit: 3 HD, CR 2 (no teleporting) (3/casting) Succubus: 6 HD, CR 7 (2/casting) Devils (medium or smaller): Barbed Devil: 12 HD, CR 11 (1/casting) Bearded Devil: 6 HD, CR 5 (2/casting) Chain Devil: 8 HD, CR 6 (no teleporting) (1/casting) Erinys: 9 HD, CR 8 (1/casting) Imp: 3 HD, CR 2 (no teleporting) (3/casting) Lemure: 2 HD, CR 1 (no teleporting) (3/casting) Night Hag: 8 HD, CR 9 (not teleport, but etherial) (1/casting) Elementals: Medium Air: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting) (3/casting) Medium Earth: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting) (3/casting) Medium Fire: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting) (3/casting) Medium Water: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting) (3/casting) Hell Hound: 4 HD, CR 3 (no teleporting) (3/casting) Methods: Establish Stronghold (Disintigrate, Wall of Stone, Stone Shape, Illusory Wall) Leave a few of the no teleporting critters Magic Circled and Diagramed in places where they will be encountered if someone comes by Leave a few Small Fire Elementals stuck in Magic Circles... forever .... for the light. Have bound demons and devils go steal stuff If someone interferes, bind several demons/devils, scry the interferee's, invis all the demons/devils, Greater Teleport with several of them to the interferee's, have the demons/devils attack, and leave to let them sort it out ... and scry the results. Ranged Touch Attack: [1d20+10] Touch Attack: [1d20+9] He can make pit traps with Disintigrate and Illusory wall, doors with Stone Shape (doesn't matter if he has to repeat the process a time or two, he has time) or illusory wall. [/QUOTE]

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