Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Dungeon Coach's DC20 RPG
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 9216224" data-attributes="member: 5142"><p>That's possible. I've seen his videos pop up from time to time, though I don't know too much about him. (I admittedly kind of lose track of who's who in the crowded throng of bearded late twenties to thirties white guy D&D Youtubers.)</p><p></p><p>I decided to look more into this new system and watch more of his videos, just so I can talk about my own impression of the game so far. The way he presents in his videos does feel like he's Billy Mays about to sell me something on an infomercial. Whether that's a fair assessment or not, it's almost too much fast-paced salesmanship energy for my tastes.</p><p></p><p>Listening to Dungeon Coach talk about his game, I'm kind of struck by how his TTRPG experience seems to boil down entirely (as far as I'm aware) to 5th Edition D&D and Pathfinder 2. He came into the hobby with the former, and I'm not sure how much actual play experience he has with the latter, as it seems his familiarity seems more with rules he read about and likes, and he has no videos where he evidences any actual play experience with PF2. (He does have additional game experience with card games like Yuh-Gi-Oh, Magic the Gathering, and Hearthstone.) I personally find that it helps to have actual play experience with these games you take ideas from so you get an idea of how it works out in actual play practice (i.e., is this actually fun?) and how that rule may interact with the other moving parts of a system since what rule works in one game may not work in another due to the sum of all parts.</p><p></p><p>The system he is making does sound fairly interesting (in its current state) as a possible alternative to these two games. There are things that I do like about the changes he is making, especially intrigued by Treantmonk's own feedback of the system. I can go into greater detail on that some other time. However, I can't help but wonder how different his system would look if he had more experience and familiarity outside of these two games, even if that experience was with other D&D and D&D-adjacent games (e.g., Shadow of the Demon Lord, OSE & OSR, 4e D&D, Fantasy AGE, 13th Age, ICRPG, etc.). I'm not expecting his system to be original, but it does seem like having greater familiarity with how these other games approached similar game design issues would help enrich his project.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 9216224, member: 5142"] That's possible. I've seen his videos pop up from time to time, though I don't know too much about him. (I admittedly kind of lose track of who's who in the crowded throng of bearded late twenties to thirties white guy D&D Youtubers.) I decided to look more into this new system and watch more of his videos, just so I can talk about my own impression of the game so far. The way he presents in his videos does feel like he's Billy Mays about to sell me something on an infomercial. Whether that's a fair assessment or not, it's almost too much fast-paced salesmanship energy for my tastes. Listening to Dungeon Coach talk about his game, I'm kind of struck by how his TTRPG experience seems to boil down entirely (as far as I'm aware) to 5th Edition D&D and Pathfinder 2. He came into the hobby with the former, and I'm not sure how much actual play experience he has with the latter, as it seems his familiarity seems more with rules he read about and likes, and he has no videos where he evidences any actual play experience with PF2. (He does have additional game experience with card games like Yuh-Gi-Oh, Magic the Gathering, and Hearthstone.) I personally find that it helps to have actual play experience with these games you take ideas from so you get an idea of how it works out in actual play practice (i.e., is this actually fun?) and how that rule may interact with the other moving parts of a system since what rule works in one game may not work in another due to the sum of all parts. The system he is making does sound fairly interesting (in its current state) as a possible alternative to these two games. There are things that I do like about the changes he is making, especially intrigued by Treantmonk's own feedback of the system. I can go into greater detail on that some other time. However, I can't help but wonder how different his system would look if he had more experience and familiarity outside of these two games, even if that experience was with other D&D and D&D-adjacent games (e.g., Shadow of the Demon Lord, OSE & OSR, 4e D&D, Fantasy AGE, 13th Age, ICRPG, etc.). I'm not expecting his system to be original, but it does seem like having greater familiarity with how these other games approached similar game design issues would help enrich his project. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Dungeon Coach's DC20 RPG
Top