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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6301199" data-attributes="member: 27160">I'm not sure that it's a "rule", as such, but I go on equivalent XP values. Roughly speaking, XP value doubles each 4 levels increase, so it's possible to set up a scheme by which:- A Standard monster may be represented by a Solo 9 levels lower, an Elite 4 levels lower or a Minion 8 levels higher.- A number of monsters of level X may be represented by a swarm, where X = 4 for a swarm 8 levels higher, X = 8 for a swarm 12 levels higher, X = 16 for a swarm 16 levels higher and so on.The numbers are quite convenient, since an "appropriate level" for a monster runs from (party level - 4) to (party level + 4), enabling some combination to cover most of a wide level range. For example, take a Battle Troll (MV pp.273), a Level 12 Standard Soldier and a Large Natural Humanoid. This could be represented (in varying numbers) as:- A L3 Solo (750xp), a tough fight on its own for a party of level 1-3 or a boss for levels 3-7.- A L8 Elite (700xp), a boss or one of a small group for parties of level 4-12.- A L12 Standard (duh! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> - 700xp), part of an encounter for parties of level 8-16.- A L16 Elite "swarm" of 4 trolls (2,800xp = 700xp per troll), for encounters with parties of level 12-20.- A L20 Minion (700xp), to face parties of level 16-24.- A L20 "swarm" of 4 trolls with size Huge (2,800xp = 700xp per troll), also to face parties of level 16-24.- A L24 "swarm" of ~8 trolls (6,050xp = 756xp per troll), Gargantuan size and facing parties of level 20-28.- A L28 "swarm" of ~18 trolls (13,000xp = 722xp per troll), if you are really keen!This makes both large "plot arcs" with a specific type of monster as "the bad guys" possible, as well as sandboxes where particular creatures remain "relevant" on some level throughout the characters' careers.EDIT: Ninjaed by [MENTION=1210]the Jester[/MENTION], who spotted exactly what I was up to. And is, of course, right about being able to pick a level (presuming it's a good bit higher than the base creature's level) for the swarm, look up the XP value for that target level and then divide it by the XP value of the base creature to get a swarm size. Remembering that doubling that number as an "elite swarm" is also an option, and that the numbers really don't have to be exact.</blockquote>

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