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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 832221" data-attributes="member: 2013">The topic has been beaten to death, but I will chime in anyway - I was disappointed that we had the vile material published to begin with.&nbsp; I was somewhat encouraged by the &quot;backlash&quot; - though as far as I could tell, nothing has changed anyway over at the Paizo offices.&nbsp; I'm even more disappointed by the call for MORE VILE!!! in RPG material.Most of us were introduced to this hobby in our pre-teen years ( ran a poll on this a while back).&nbsp; By pushing up the &quot;Rating&quot; of the game, we're pulling up the ladder behind us... if D&amp;D had been &quot;Mature Gaming&quot; when YOU found it, would YOU have gotten into it?And I guess I STILL don't see the need for scads of &quot;Vile&quot; material in a game that is allegedly about taking the part of heroes.I know, I know, I'm bass-ackwards and conservative, but I want a game I can play with my kids.&nbsp; I want a game where we have heroes - the &quot;real world&quot; is nasty and vile and gritty enough already.&nbsp; D&amp;D is supposed to be &quot;escapism&quot; for me into a world where light fights against darkness - not a rehash of the evening news where corrupt cops are squealed on by corrupt reporters when they beat corrupt criminals. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />I don't want to hijack this thread, just pointing out that not everyone sees this as &quot;good news&quot; for the hobby.--The Sigil</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 832221, member: 2013"] The topic has been beaten to death, but I will chime in anyway - I was disappointed that we had the vile material published to begin with. I was somewhat encouraged by the "backlash" - though as far as I could tell, nothing has changed anyway over at the Paizo offices. I'm even more disappointed by the call for MORE VILE!!! in RPG material. Most of us were introduced to this hobby in our pre-teen years ( ran a poll on this a while back). By pushing up the "Rating" of the game, we're pulling up the ladder behind us... if D&D had been "Mature Gaming" when YOU found it, would YOU have gotten into it? And I guess I STILL don't see the need for scads of "Vile" material in a game that is allegedly about taking the part of heroes. I know, I know, I'm bass-ackwards and conservative, but I want a game I can play with my kids. I want a game where we have heroes - the "real world" is nasty and vile and gritty enough already. D&D is supposed to be "escapism" for me into a world where light fights against darkness - not a rehash of the evening news where corrupt cops are squealed on by corrupt reporters when they beat corrupt criminals. :( I don't want to hijack this thread, just pointing out that not everyone sees this as "good news" for the hobby. --The Sigil [/QUOTE]

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