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<blockquote data-quote="rounser" data-source="post: 833374" data-attributes="member: 1106"><p>Yeah, yeah, yeah...I put it to you that art <em>of worth</em> usually requires talent or dedication to create. You can take any adventure and add rape, torture, mutilation and whatever combinations of sex and death and tastelessness you want, but usually that doesn't make the creation of any worth - if anything, it usually detracts from worth. Look at the RPG.net review of F.A.T.A.L. for proof. Art may not be difficult, but I think there's far more art in evoking a good laugh than inspiring disgust that some find titillating and "edgy".</p><p></p><p>I'll admit bias - I don't like books like American Psycho, and take a dim view of those who overrate their literary worth because they think they're edgy or challenge norms or some other bollocks. Call a spade a spade, don't intellectualise it. D&D already rides on a pornography of power and violence and wish-fulfilment, so I'm not surprised that a good deal of the audience is interested in such subject matter, but I don't think that's an invitation to spotlight it gratuitously.</p><p></p><p>It's not about censorship, it's about what some of the audience want to read and use, and others don't. Every page of vile content that needs to be ignored steals pages from the non-vilers. Again, enough with the rhetoric, this isn't a free-speech and censorship issue, it's a what-we-want-from-Dungeon issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rounser, post: 833374, member: 1106"] Yeah, yeah, yeah...I put it to you that art [i]of worth[/i] usually requires talent or dedication to create. You can take any adventure and add rape, torture, mutilation and whatever combinations of sex and death and tastelessness you want, but usually that doesn't make the creation of any worth - if anything, it usually detracts from worth. Look at the RPG.net review of F.A.T.A.L. for proof. Art may not be difficult, but I think there's far more art in evoking a good laugh than inspiring disgust that some find titillating and "edgy". I'll admit bias - I don't like books like American Psycho, and take a dim view of those who overrate their literary worth because they think they're edgy or challenge norms or some other bollocks. Call a spade a spade, don't intellectualise it. D&D already rides on a pornography of power and violence and wish-fulfilment, so I'm not surprised that a good deal of the audience is interested in such subject matter, but I don't think that's an invitation to spotlight it gratuitously. It's not about censorship, it's about what some of the audience want to read and use, and others don't. Every page of vile content that needs to be ignored steals pages from the non-vilers. Again, enough with the rhetoric, this isn't a free-speech and censorship issue, it's a what-we-want-from-Dungeon issue. [/QUOTE]
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