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<blockquote data-quote="zoroaster100" data-source="post: 833536" data-attributes="member: 8538">&quot;vile&quot; was just a marketing ployI don't mind mature content in Dragon.&nbsp; But the whole &quot;vile&quot; stuff I think was just a marketing ploy to tie into the Book of Vile Darkness, which I thought was in and of itself mostly a marketing stunt to sell ordinary D&amp;D rules as something out of the ordinary.&nbsp; Rules for slavery, drug use, possession, etc. are not that different from the regular content in D&amp;D.&nbsp; I don't really find such rules in and of themselves &quot;vile.&quot;&nbsp; The only real vile part about it was the way the marketing for the book and related material seemed to have a purile, immature &quot;we're giggling 'cause we're doing something naughty&quot; feel to it.Marketing a whole book and a whole category of content in a manner that seems to glorify evil is kind of immature in my opinion (mind you I'm not saying the book itself was immature, but the marketing was).&nbsp; It was also foolishly begging for backlash against Dragon and D&amp;D in general from people outside and inside the gaming community.&nbsp; I think Dragon has foolishly managed to put themselves in the middle of an ideological war.&nbsp; I don't really feel strongly on either side of that war, but I regret Dragon's foolishness in risking the success of a good magazine I enjoy by setting themselves to anger one group of subscribers or another no matter what they do at this point.In any case, I don't really care that much whether they include such content or not, but if they do include it, just please let them not put those stupid &quot;sealed&quot; sections that mess up the magazine.&nbsp; As if somehow someone not &quot;mature&quot; enough that gets his or her hands on the magazine will somehow be &quot;protected&quot; from opening the sealed section.&nbsp; That was just a marketing ploy also, to get people to think they are getting to use something forbidden, and therefore, impliedly, better than other material.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zoroaster100, post: 833536, member: 8538"] [b]"vile" was just a marketing ploy[/b] I don't mind mature content in Dragon. But the whole "vile" stuff I think was just a marketing ploy to tie into the Book of Vile Darkness, which I thought was in and of itself mostly a marketing stunt to sell ordinary D&D rules as something out of the ordinary. Rules for slavery, drug use, possession, etc. are not that different from the regular content in D&D. I don't really find such rules in and of themselves "vile." The only real vile part about it was the way the marketing for the book and related material seemed to have a purile, immature "we're giggling 'cause we're doing something naughty" feel to it. Marketing a whole book and a whole category of content in a manner that seems to glorify evil is kind of immature in my opinion (mind you I'm not saying the book itself was immature, but the marketing was). It was also foolishly begging for backlash against Dragon and D&D in general from people outside and inside the gaming community. I think Dragon has foolishly managed to put themselves in the middle of an ideological war. I don't really feel strongly on either side of that war, but I regret Dragon's foolishness in risking the success of a good magazine I enjoy by setting themselves to anger one group of subscribers or another no matter what they do at this point. In any case, I don't really care that much whether they include such content or not, but if they do include it, just please let them not put those stupid "sealed" sections that mess up the magazine. As if somehow someone not "mature" enough that gets his or her hands on the magazine will somehow be "protected" from opening the sealed section. That was just a marketing ploy also, to get people to think they are getting to use something forbidden, and therefore, impliedly, better than other material. [/QUOTE]

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