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Dungeon magazine says maybe more vile. Huzzah!
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<blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 836299" data-attributes="member: 6398"><p>No kidding... Whenever someone says "vile" nowadays, there's this automatical assumption that it's a mix between a T&A film and Fangoria's Midnight Special of the Week. I try to enlighten, but some folks like to cling to their prejudices.</p><p></p><p>Consider for a moment folks... There's a Dungeon adventure. Then BBEG has the Corrupt Spell Feat. Tada! I just included vile content! Now everyone that doesn't like it can avoid an entire issue over it, cancle their subscription, or whatever other over-reactive response they feel like.</p><p></p><p>You don't have BoVD? You don't know what Corrupt Spell does? Well, you ask, you find out, and now you know. Big whoop there to impress upon your morals or scare away the kiddies.</p><p></p><p>Here's another example: BBEG is performing a ritual sacrifice. The entire formula of the sacrifice is calculated, what he's doing, how long, etc. In the end, all the adventure needs to say is "at the end of five rounds, the ritual will conclude and [X Event] will occur." No reason to own the BoVD here, either. No mention of the BoVD even needs to be made, since the conditions of the encounter and the time-frame of the adventure already establish everything already. Sure, someone <em>with</em> BoVD could reverse--engineer it and ensure that the rules in BoVD were followed (indeed, I'd be surprised if a number of 3rd Party Publishers don't do this!), but if you don't own it, it's not a big deal.</p><p></p><p>Now, if Dungeon <em>does</em> become a T&A/Fangoria crossbreed, well, shame on them. Even as a fan of vile content, I wouldn't be interested. But the possibility of the <em>inclusion</em> of BoVD rules shouldn't be such a big deal that folks get their under-roos all bunched up over it. 'Cause like I said earlier, this stuff's been in D&D for quite some time, just not codified. Codifying it isn't be that big of a deal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bendris Noulg, post: 836299, member: 6398"] No kidding... Whenever someone says "vile" nowadays, there's this automatical assumption that it's a mix between a T&A film and Fangoria's Midnight Special of the Week. I try to enlighten, but some folks like to cling to their prejudices. Consider for a moment folks... There's a Dungeon adventure. Then BBEG has the Corrupt Spell Feat. Tada! I just included vile content! Now everyone that doesn't like it can avoid an entire issue over it, cancle their subscription, or whatever other over-reactive response they feel like. You don't have BoVD? You don't know what Corrupt Spell does? Well, you ask, you find out, and now you know. Big whoop there to impress upon your morals or scare away the kiddies. Here's another example: BBEG is performing a ritual sacrifice. The entire formula of the sacrifice is calculated, what he's doing, how long, etc. In the end, all the adventure needs to say is "at the end of five rounds, the ritual will conclude and [X Event] will occur." No reason to own the BoVD here, either. No mention of the BoVD even needs to be made, since the conditions of the encounter and the time-frame of the adventure already establish everything already. Sure, someone [i]with[/i] BoVD could reverse--engineer it and ensure that the rules in BoVD were followed (indeed, I'd be surprised if a number of 3rd Party Publishers don't do this!), but if you don't own it, it's not a big deal. Now, if Dungeon [i]does[/i] become a T&A/Fangoria crossbreed, well, shame on them. Even as a fan of vile content, I wouldn't be interested. But the possibility of the [i]inclusion[/i] of BoVD rules shouldn't be such a big deal that folks get their under-roos all bunched up over it. 'Cause like I said earlier, this stuff's been in D&D for quite some time, just not codified. Codifying it isn't be that big of a deal. [/QUOTE]
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