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<blockquote data-quote="El Ravager" data-source="post: 837633" data-attributes="member: 738">I noticed something on TV last night and I wonder if this might provide some context to the issue.&nbsp; I caught the end of CSI last night.&nbsp; The episode, apparently, dealt with sadomasochistic sex and a murder that resulted from it.&nbsp; The detectives found that a man was committing this because his wife would not let him touch her for years and he acted his frustration out on this other woman.&nbsp; Eventually suffocated her.The program is rated TV-14.&nbsp; Not X, not MA.&nbsp; No warnings between commercial breaks to hide the kids.&nbsp; This would not be an R rated film, but one that would be rated PG-13.&nbsp; And on the whole, the episode dealt with the material about the same as the BoVD as far as how explicit/graphic it was.Now I was watching the re-run at 10pm, but the episode originally aired in prime time.&nbsp; As it fits in the big picture of American culture, I don't think that Dungeon/Dragon magazine is really all that out of line by occasionally using similar material. I am not necessarily saying it is good or bad, just comparing it to other media.&nbsp; While it may not appeal to you or I, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really seem to cause a stir.=======El Rav</blockquote>

[QUOTE="El Ravager, post: 837633, member: 738"] I noticed something on TV last night and I wonder if this might provide some context to the issue. I caught the end of CSI last night. The episode, apparently, dealt with sadomasochistic sex and a murder that resulted from it. The detectives found that a man was committing this because his wife would not let him touch her for years and he acted his frustration out on this other woman. Eventually suffocated her. The program is rated TV-14. Not X, not MA. No warnings between commercial breaks to hide the kids. This would not be an R rated film, but one that would be rated PG-13. And on the whole, the episode dealt with the material about the same as the BoVD as far as how explicit/graphic it was. Now I was watching the re-run at 10pm, but the episode originally aired in prime time. As it fits in the big picture of American culture, I don't think that Dungeon/Dragon magazine is really all that out of line by occasionally using similar material. I am not necessarily saying it is good or bad, just comparing it to other media. While it may not appeal to you or I, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really seem to cause a stir. ======= El Rav [/QUOTE]

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