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Dungeon magazine says maybe more vile. Huzzah!
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<blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 840026" data-attributes="member: 6398"><p>Well, by the time I started playing D&D (13), I had already seen:</p><p></p><p>-The Godfather</p><p>-Night of the Living Dead</p><p>-Heavy Metal</p><p>-Excalibur</p><p>-Caligula</p><p>-The Exorcist</p><p></p><p>I'd already read a half-dozen Cthulu-esque tales and the entire original Conan series.</p><p></p><p>I had a subscription to Heavy Metal and Epic.</p><p></p><p>And <em>then</em> I started playing.</p><p></p><p>In my first game, I played a Paladin that got tortured by a Lich for not renouncing my deity (I think the DM <em>wanted</em> to run an Evil game; I learned the *hard way* later on that he was natorious for allowing Evil PCs pretend to be good and infliltrate otherwise decent groups).</p><p></p><p>So I read a lot about increasing the accessability of D&D to a younger generation, but in all honesty, I just don't buy it. Parents are either open to such things (in which case there isn't a problem) or they aren't (in which case no amount of ambiguity of subject matter is going to change things).</p><p></p><p>There is already vileness in the Core rules (Soul sucking demons that use lust to lure their victims? Undead necromancers that exchange their living essence for power? Brain-eating aliens that view other races as cattle and breed-stock?). All BoVD does is go a step further, bringing in elements of cultural myth (notably dark-age "lore" regarding demonology, sex and body fluids with more than a dash of Clive Barker) into the game. Most of this material ends up in games anyway when gamers do any amount of research to bring in more possibilities (it's how it ended up in mine to begin with); BoVD simply establishes the connection and methodology of such within the default setting.</p><p></p><p>Also, there is a bit of sneering regarding "mature" content. Please note that BoVD is just <em>one</em> release in what is intended to be a group of books. So if your going to sneer at anything, at least do it against the true object of your prejudice ("vile" material, and do include the stuff <em>already</em> in the Core Rules), not an entire line that, thus far, has only one product release thus far. Especially considering that the next release <em>is</em> the BoVD's opposite: The Book of <em>Exalted</em> Deeds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bendris Noulg, post: 840026, member: 6398"] Well, by the time I started playing D&D (13), I had already seen: -The Godfather -Night of the Living Dead -Heavy Metal -Excalibur -Caligula -The Exorcist I'd already read a half-dozen Cthulu-esque tales and the entire original Conan series. I had a subscription to Heavy Metal and Epic. And [i]then[/i] I started playing. In my first game, I played a Paladin that got tortured by a Lich for not renouncing my deity (I think the DM [i]wanted[/i] to run an Evil game; I learned the *hard way* later on that he was natorious for allowing Evil PCs pretend to be good and infliltrate otherwise decent groups). So I read a lot about increasing the accessability of D&D to a younger generation, but in all honesty, I just don't buy it. Parents are either open to such things (in which case there isn't a problem) or they aren't (in which case no amount of ambiguity of subject matter is going to change things). There is already vileness in the Core rules (Soul sucking demons that use lust to lure their victims? Undead necromancers that exchange their living essence for power? Brain-eating aliens that view other races as cattle and breed-stock?). All BoVD does is go a step further, bringing in elements of cultural myth (notably dark-age "lore" regarding demonology, sex and body fluids with more than a dash of Clive Barker) into the game. Most of this material ends up in games anyway when gamers do any amount of research to bring in more possibilities (it's how it ended up in mine to begin with); BoVD simply establishes the connection and methodology of such within the default setting. Also, there is a bit of sneering regarding "mature" content. Please note that BoVD is just [i]one[/i] release in what is intended to be a group of books. So if your going to sneer at anything, at least do it against the true object of your prejudice ("vile" material, and do include the stuff [i]already[/i] in the Core Rules), not an entire line that, thus far, has only one product release thus far. Especially considering that the next release [i]is[/i] the BoVD's opposite: The Book of [i]Exalted[/i] Deeds. [/QUOTE]
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