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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guillaume" data-source="post: 840798" data-attributes="member: 8052">I must say that I agree with Psion assertion.  I have nothing against the fact that Vile/Mature/Adult/R-Rated/whatever material is published.  Heck, I even find it refreshing in the sense that it brings variety to the game.  However, the BoVD did not interest me.  For various reasons, among which the playability of the material in my imediate campaign and the artwork, I decided against buying it.That said, I respect the fact that other people have bought, that other gamers are using the material.  What I object to, like Psion, is that the material, which is aimed at a mature audience, is getting published in a magazine aimed at a general audience.  I started reading first Dragon magazine then Dungeon at an age which would be commonly considered inappropriate for discussions of rape, torture, necrophilia, etc.  In that respect, I think that these magazines should aim at keeping their rating at PG-13 if possible.Where does the «censorship», since that is the aim of your intervention as I understand it Thiefling, where does the censorship end ? I think the target there is a moving one.  The definition of appropriate material for a general audience changes over time.  What was considered appropriate in the 1960s is very different from the stuff considered approriate in the 2000s.That said, I do believe that right now, the material covered by the BoVD is not considered appropriate.  Once more, It does not mean that it should not be pulished or supproted, just that Dungeon and Dragon magazines are not the venues for such publication and support as the aim of the magazines is to cater to the RPG community in general.  Now if Paizo is changing this goal, that is another matter, but it is my impression that that is not the case.As for the point that I could ignore the articles/adventures in the magazine, yes I could.  I already do.  It does not alter the fact that that particular edition has become innappropriate for young readers.  Therefore, part of the present readership is being put aside in a time when we keep hearing that modifications to the publication is being done because the magazine is in financial difficulties and may not survive (ie fusion of Dungeon and Polyhedron).  Tell me, would you plan on rebuilding a magazine be eliminating a part of your assured clientele in the hope of gaining a new one ? In French we have a saying : «Un tu l'as vaux mieux que deux tu l'auras.»  Roughly translated it means : «One you've got is better than two you might haves.»Guillaume</blockquote>

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