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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 840889" data-attributes="member: 172">Two points -1) killing vs. murder. I find the use of the term murder in arguments like this very loaded. If the creature is described as evil in the game, it is not merely a label. It is a set of behaviors, one that leads the creature into conflict with otherwise peaceful creatures. So I don't think you should bandy about the term murder so gleefully.Now, if your campaign is just a team jersey mentality type game where "evil" is just a label, and the orcs didn't have to do anything to deserve it, that is up to you, but it's certainly not the way I run my game. (In fact, in a recent adventure, the PCs rescued goblins, but that's another story.)2) Welcome to western society where violence is regarded as less taboo entertainment than sex. Sorry, that's the way it is. The reasons for it run much deeper than this thread.But part of it for me is familiarity. I have sex (geek stereotypes aside <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ). Its a very personal experience. It doesn't take much mental suggestion to taint my mental images in a way that revolt me.I don't regularly engage in violence, so I am much more disengaged from the act. I think this is fairly common. At one time I tried to liven up combat by being more descriptive. When DMing for a group of players I consider quite a bit less conservative than me, I tried to come up with an interesting description for a killing hit by a spiked chain. I managed to revolt my players.In short, I don't think it's the existence of violence or sex in a game that is a big issue. It's how graphically it is depicted. Some people are more sensitive to graphic depictions than others, and I think whether it's violence or sex, when it comes to a publication intended for a general audience, you need to be sensitive to the sensitivity of your audience.At any rate, the rest of your reply is garbled, so I'll have to handle it in another post.</blockquote>

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