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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6311282" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Well, of course you haven't seen it. The mechanics in 3e are virtually guaranteed that this tactic will fail. But, then again, just because your players aren't particularly interested in tactics doesn't make it a poor tactical choice.</p><p></p><p>Now, going back to AD&D, this tactic was a great one, because now fighters don't auto fail trying to hide or sneak.</p><p></p><p>Then again, it's not that hard to get a 3e fighter to be sneaky either. Elven cloak and Boots fix that problem and isn't terribly expensive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Funny how you conspicuously leave off one class comparison there. Because I've been told multiple times that the way for a rogue to be successful is to start casting spells - seems a lot like being a wizard to me. And a rogue that hangs back and shoots arrows is about as effective as a commoner. No sneak attack at range. You have to act like a fighter or you don't do anything in combat. A rogue that never gets into melee is basically a torch carrier.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6311282, member: 22779"] Well, of course you haven't seen it. The mechanics in 3e are virtually guaranteed that this tactic will fail. But, then again, just because your players aren't particularly interested in tactics doesn't make it a poor tactical choice. Now, going back to AD&D, this tactic was a great one, because now fighters don't auto fail trying to hide or sneak. Then again, it's not that hard to get a 3e fighter to be sneaky either. Elven cloak and Boots fix that problem and isn't terribly expensive. Funny how you conspicuously leave off one class comparison there. Because I've been told multiple times that the way for a rogue to be successful is to start casting spells - seems a lot like being a wizard to me. And a rogue that hangs back and shoots arrows is about as effective as a commoner. No sneak attack at range. You have to act like a fighter or you don't do anything in combat. A rogue that never gets into melee is basically a torch carrier. [/QUOTE]
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