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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9478375" data-attributes="member: 29398">We disagree there; to me those two things are part and parcel of one thing.Zone of Truth is still a thing, is it not?Failing that, there's real-world options such as references, getting to know the person, etc.I did retail management for ages, and part of my job was interviews and hiring.&nbsp; I'm not bad at reading people in person but over the years I still got burned a couple of times: one of my hires started stealing from us pretty much on the first day of work and another got us all in real hot water with legal over some interactions with a customer (a very long story).&nbsp; But that's just two out of probably 50-60 people, so not a bad batting average.That's the reality.&nbsp; Which means that's what I'm going to put in my games: that there could always be that one bad apple.Same as traps - not every door in a dungeon is trapped but some of them might be.Or you just see how it goes.&nbsp; The servant my character has at her house in the game I play in has shown me more loyalty than any other person I've ever met...and taking him on was a pure leap of faith on my part; he's a Goblin (they're monsters, in our games) who was servant to some bad guys we knocked off.&nbsp; We didn't know what to do with him so my character took him in and hired him, not quite knowing what to expect; and it turned out to be one of the best moves that character has ever made.But it took me a while to realize just how loyal and trustworthy he was.&nbsp; Until then I took precautions, not knowing if he was going to slit my throat while I slept, but soon realized I could relax on that.50% would be overkill, I agree.But 5%?&nbsp; That's more like reality, IME.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 9478375, member: 29398"] We disagree there; to me those two things are part and parcel of one thing. [I]Zone of Truth[/I] is still a thing, is it not? Failing that, there's real-world options such as references, getting to know the person, etc. I did retail management for ages, and part of my job was interviews and hiring. I'm not bad at reading people in person but over the years I still got burned a couple of times: one of my hires started stealing from us pretty much on the first day of work and another got us all in real hot water with legal over some interactions with a customer (a very long story). But that's just two out of probably 50-60 people, so not a bad batting average. That's the reality. Which means that's what I'm going to put in my games: that there could always be that one bad apple. Same as traps - not every door in a dungeon is trapped but some of them might be. Or you just see how it goes. The servant my character has at her house in the game I play in has shown me more loyalty than any other person I've ever met...and taking him on was a pure leap of faith on my part; he's a Goblin (they're monsters, in our games) who was servant to some bad guys we knocked off. We didn't know what to do with him so my character took him in and hired him, not quite knowing what to expect; and it turned out to be one of the best moves that character has ever made. But it took me a while to realize just how loyal and trustworthy he was. Until then I took precautions, not knowing if he was going to slit my throat while I slept, but soon realized I could relax on that. 50% would be overkill, I agree. But 5%? That's more like reality, IME. [/QUOTE]

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