Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Dungeon Master's Guide II
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Samothdm" data-source="post: 1863033" data-attributes="member: 5473"><p>I'm sure that there are, but I can't think of any right now. </p><p></p><p>As far as adding new books and new rules for 3.x, this complaint just never seems to go away. I'm not entirely sure why. </p><p></p><p>My wife likes to do needlepoint. She gets excited when she finds new colors of yarn. I never hear her complain, "There are too many colors of yarn! I'm going to quit needlepointing!"</p><p></p><p>We both like to cook. We are constantly on the search for new recipes. Does the world <em>need</em> new recipes? No. We can get by with what we have. We can all just eat the same thing every day for the rest of our lives (well, within reason...). But, when browsing through a book store, we're likely to go to the Cook Book section and look for something new. We certainly don't complain when we see that a chef we like has written a new cookbook. </p><p></p><p>I don't see too many Star Wars fans complaining that there are "too many action figures" (except from the standpoint that they can't afford them all, or maybe don't have room to store them). Same with comic book fans and comics (although Marvel did go a little crazy there in the 1990s with too many titles) and with music fans and music. People don't complain when their favorite bands have put out too many new albums (unless those albums suck, but there will still be fans who like the new stuff anyway and will buy it). </p><p></p><p>I think that the complaining about new material coming out for 3.x can be broken down into a few areas:</p><p></p><p>1) Money. Some people feel like anything WotC puts out is needed for their game, and they can't afford it all, so they get bitter and complain. Note that you don't need to buy all of these new books. Just use the Core three books to run your campaign. Or, heck, get it for free as the SRD. Just because you feel that you can't afford a new book doesn't mean the book is unwarranted. </p><p></p><p>2) "Usefulness". If you don't have an arctic area in your campaign world, then <em>Frostburn</em> is going to be pretty useless. Note, however, that this does not mean it is a useless book for everbody. </p><p></p><p>3) "Too Many Options! I'm overwhelmed!" Relax. Switch to decaf, and just use what you want. Or don't use any of it. No one's forcing you to read through and use all of this stuff. They're called options for a reason: they're <em>optional</em>. </p><p></p><p>That's all I can think of right now. I think most of the complaints really fall into area #2: most people have a tendency to evaluate books based on how useful it is for them personally and then make a judgment about its worth without considering how someone else might feel about it. For everyone who thinks that <em>Maelstrom</em> is going to be a complete waste, there are probably just as many people who run a "water-world" campaign who can't wait for this book to come out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Samothdm, post: 1863033, member: 5473"] I'm sure that there are, but I can't think of any right now. As far as adding new books and new rules for 3.x, this complaint just never seems to go away. I'm not entirely sure why. My wife likes to do needlepoint. She gets excited when she finds new colors of yarn. I never hear her complain, "There are too many colors of yarn! I'm going to quit needlepointing!" We both like to cook. We are constantly on the search for new recipes. Does the world [i]need[/i] new recipes? No. We can get by with what we have. We can all just eat the same thing every day for the rest of our lives (well, within reason...). But, when browsing through a book store, we're likely to go to the Cook Book section and look for something new. We certainly don't complain when we see that a chef we like has written a new cookbook. I don't see too many Star Wars fans complaining that there are "too many action figures" (except from the standpoint that they can't afford them all, or maybe don't have room to store them). Same with comic book fans and comics (although Marvel did go a little crazy there in the 1990s with too many titles) and with music fans and music. People don't complain when their favorite bands have put out too many new albums (unless those albums suck, but there will still be fans who like the new stuff anyway and will buy it). I think that the complaining about new material coming out for 3.x can be broken down into a few areas: 1) Money. Some people feel like anything WotC puts out is needed for their game, and they can't afford it all, so they get bitter and complain. Note that you don't need to buy all of these new books. Just use the Core three books to run your campaign. Or, heck, get it for free as the SRD. Just because you feel that you can't afford a new book doesn't mean the book is unwarranted. 2) "Usefulness". If you don't have an arctic area in your campaign world, then [i]Frostburn[/i] is going to be pretty useless. Note, however, that this does not mean it is a useless book for everbody. 3) "Too Many Options! I'm overwhelmed!" Relax. Switch to decaf, and just use what you want. Or don't use any of it. No one's forcing you to read through and use all of this stuff. They're called options for a reason: they're [i]optional[/i]. That's all I can think of right now. I think most of the complaints really fall into area #2: most people have a tendency to evaluate books based on how useful it is for them personally and then make a judgment about its worth without considering how someone else might feel about it. For everyone who thinks that [i]Maelstrom[/i] is going to be a complete waste, there are probably just as many people who run a "water-world" campaign who can't wait for this book to come out. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Dungeon Master's Guide II
Top