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<blockquote data-quote="EpicureanDM" data-source="post: 7931552" data-attributes="member: 6996003"><p>I've never been a fan of things like Threaten or Intimidate being classified as social actions, especially if, as your current design suggests, they allow someone to use a physical stat like Strength to substitute for a social stat like Charisma. Imagine how you would react if someone's trying to convince you of something via Sway or Argue and then their buddy jumps in and puts a fist under your nose:"Agree with my friend's carefully crafted argument or I'll beat your ass." Would that make you more or less likely to go along with someone else's friendly or intellectual attempt to gain your agreement? If it's less likely, then why should it count favorably towards resolving the conflict? If it's more likely, then why have a social conflict at all? Just beat them up until they agree without the need for sweet talk. <em>If you're engaging in a social conflict, it's presumably because you can't use physical force to get what you want.</em> So why should physical force be an option once you're in the social conflict?</p><p></p><p>I'd remove Threaten entirely, but maybe I'm not considering social conflicts where the use of physical threats can be helpful? I'm assuming that since Strength is being rolled, Threaten actions are made against people involved in the conflict. You can Threaten someone's loved one who's in a house across town or suggest that you'll destroy a valuable bridge in a nearby province, but that sort of indirect threat would be better handled with Charisma or Intelligence, right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EpicureanDM, post: 7931552, member: 6996003"] I've never been a fan of things like Threaten or Intimidate being classified as social actions, especially if, as your current design suggests, they allow someone to use a physical stat like Strength to substitute for a social stat like Charisma. Imagine how you would react if someone's trying to convince you of something via Sway or Argue and then their buddy jumps in and puts a fist under your nose:"Agree with my friend's carefully crafted argument or I'll beat your ass." Would that make you more or less likely to go along with someone else's friendly or intellectual attempt to gain your agreement? If it's less likely, then why should it count favorably towards resolving the conflict? If it's more likely, then why have a social conflict at all? Just beat them up until they agree without the need for sweet talk. [I]If you're engaging in a social conflict, it's presumably because you can't use physical force to get what you want.[/I] So why should physical force be an option once you're in the social conflict? I'd remove Threaten entirely, but maybe I'm not considering social conflicts where the use of physical threats can be helpful? I'm assuming that since Strength is being rolled, Threaten actions are made against people involved in the conflict. You can Threaten someone's loved one who's in a house across town or suggest that you'll destroy a valuable bridge in a nearby province, but that sort of indirect threat would be better handled with Charisma or Intelligence, right? [/QUOTE]
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