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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 9438942" data-attributes="member: 5142">The Kickstarter for Blades in the Dark made $179,280 pre-pandemic whereas Ironsworn: Starforged made $347,983 post-pandemic on its Kickstarter. Which is the better game? Which has the bigger community?Avatar Legends made $9+ million. Where is its gaming community? Is Avatar Legends not a good game if its community is not as big as Blades in the Dark or Ironsworn? Or is it a better game because it made significantly more than Blades in the Dark and Ironsworn combined?The reality is that some people and companies are better at running and marketing for Kickstarters than others. And there have been a rise in Kickstarter spending, especially during and following the Pandemic.What were Kickstarters even like in the year 2012 when Dungeon World came out? There wasn't a million dollar TTRPG Kickstarter until 2016 (i.e., 7th Sea 2e), and there were only five before 2021. But while we are asking, how does 7th Sea 2e's community compare to Ironsworn's? Surely 7th Sea's 2e's community must be larger since it made more money than Ironsworn.<img src="https://media3.giphy.com/media/11R5KYi6ZdP8Z2/200.gif" alt="Awkward Cricket GIF" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />Despite Luke Crane's past connections with Kickstarter, I don't think that he has or runs the best Kickstarters. He's a good game designer, but I don't think that he is the greatest with marketing his products or maximizing profit. I don't think that his company has the outreach of even small time indie companies like Magpie Games, Evil Hat Productions, or Modiphius. So if there will be a Dungeon World 2e Kickstarter, I am honestly not expecting much. But that has more to do with who would be running the Kickstarter and marketing than the strength of the product and its community.I remember being bombarded with advertisements for Kickstarters like Avatar Legends, Shadowdark, and even Ironsworn. DC20 had a large network of YouTubers who were promoting the product, because the creator had developed a YouTube following on the platform. I don't recall getting those sort of advertisements from good high quality games like Torchbearer or Stonetop. Neither designer has a large following on YouTube or other social media platforms.How much a game makes with its Kickstarter doesn't tell me the whole picture about either quality of the game or the size of its community. I see great games barely make their goals on Kickstarter, and I see garbage games rake in hundreds of thousands.</blockquote>

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