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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9591921" data-attributes="member: 7043270">Why do we at this point take anything which mearls said about original D&D 4E serious?<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He was NOT part of the original design team. He was just not there at all.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He joined 9+ months later and NOT as a gamedesigner but as a tester/developer that was only later</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He is the most hated designer among all 4E fans. There are even theories that his job was to make 4E tank such that WotC has could make the next edition.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He was the person who profited most from 4E failing becoming the lead of 5E a game which he could design from the beginning</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He was responsible for the most hated books</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He literally was not posting anything since years on these forums until now to make advertisement for his new game</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">He exactly knows that stating "4E was made to be like WoW" will get huge visibility and lots of discussion because he was in other similar threads.</li> </ul>In an interview with the ACTUAL people behind 4E it was stated that yes 4E should make it easy for people from MMOs/WoW to join D&D but they also said that almost nothing in 4E was inspired by WoWIt is a huge difference to make it easy to join your game (by streamlining it, by not requiring old knowledge, etc.) than using inspiration from that other game.From the interviews I watched with the key people of 4E, there where 3 things which were influenced by WoW<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The business model of subscription</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The fact that everyone is useful in combat (so no classes focused on the non combat parts alone)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Having a broad variety of races in the game from the start (like Tieflings and Dragonborns)</li> </ol>Because I dont want to repeat myself and link the video with the ACTUAL 4E designers let me link to the last post in the same discussion: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/ray-winninger-on-5e%E2%80%99s-success-product-cadence-the-ogl-and-more.709802/page-62#post-9571409" target="_blank">D&D General - Ray Winninger on 5e’s success, product cadence, the OGL, and more.</a>No it would not be something bad to be inspired by WoW, however, it was and still is used as a slur against 4E, and also it is disrespectful against the actual people behind 4E which state different things and also it is disrespectful against the games which actually heavily influenced D&D 4E like Magic the Gathering, Soccer, Wargames, older D&D (and Feng Shui).Again to not repeat myself, one can clearly see from the gamedesign (if you look a bit closer and use your brain) what the inspirations are: Why 4E gamedesign does not resemble WoW: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/ray-winninger-on-5e%E2%80%99s-success-product-cadence-the-ogl-and-more.709802/page-62#post-9571425" target="_blank">D&D General - Ray Winninger on 5e’s success, product cadence, the OGL, and more.</a></blockquote>

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