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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9821614" data-attributes="member: 7026594"><p>Kind of. What's documented is general heavy expenditures for a lavish lifestyle once D&D became a fad and millions were rolling in. Various people who knew him mention or hint about coke use, though people who knew him personally tend(ed) to talk more (at least on the record) about alcohol and fancy meals. I've never seen any of the sources get into any specifics about how much he spent on any of that. People talk about him spending money on three martini lunches and Big Deal Businessman dinners at the Playboy Club and other fancy restaurants in Lake Geneva, and in Hollywood once he got there. And a ton of money on his Dragonlands estate in Clinton, WI (complete with stable and Arabian horses), And his Stone Mansion apartment on Lake Geneva after he and his first wife Mary Jo were separated. TSR paid for King Vidor's mansion in Hollywood as his TSR Entertainment/West headquarters and residence, as an operating expense. Gary's car and his bodyguard/driver were also on the TSR dime. </p><p></p><p>Solomon claiming Gary blew all of TSR's money on coke is certainly overstating it, but it's got a little seed of truth since as we know part of TSR's financial precarity was Gary's demands for his own relatively exorbitant royalties to be paid regardless what state the company's finances were in. Of course from Gary's perspective he was owed his money and the company would have been able to afford his royalties if the Blumes hadn't spent the company into the ground. Tons of nepo hires, the ship-raising, buying a needlepoint company, a fleet of company cars and expensive office furniture, and other shady dealing to relatives, a few notorious examples of which are detailed in <em>When We Were Wizards</em> and <em>Slaying the Dragon. </em>But we know Gary did much the same stuff, and co-signed a lot of their worse management actions, though he later painted himself as the victim and hero of the story. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9821614, member: 7026594"] Kind of. What's documented is general heavy expenditures for a lavish lifestyle once D&D became a fad and millions were rolling in. Various people who knew him mention or hint about coke use, though people who knew him personally tend(ed) to talk more (at least on the record) about alcohol and fancy meals. I've never seen any of the sources get into any specifics about how much he spent on any of that. People talk about him spending money on three martini lunches and Big Deal Businessman dinners at the Playboy Club and other fancy restaurants in Lake Geneva, and in Hollywood once he got there. And a ton of money on his Dragonlands estate in Clinton, WI (complete with stable and Arabian horses), And his Stone Mansion apartment on Lake Geneva after he and his first wife Mary Jo were separated. TSR paid for King Vidor's mansion in Hollywood as his TSR Entertainment/West headquarters and residence, as an operating expense. Gary's car and his bodyguard/driver were also on the TSR dime. Solomon claiming Gary blew all of TSR's money on coke is certainly overstating it, but it's got a little seed of truth since as we know part of TSR's financial precarity was Gary's demands for his own relatively exorbitant royalties to be paid regardless what state the company's finances were in. Of course from Gary's perspective he was owed his money and the company would have been able to afford his royalties if the Blumes hadn't spent the company into the ground. Tons of nepo hires, the ship-raising, buying a needlepoint company, a fleet of company cars and expensive office furniture, and other shady dealing to relatives, a few notorious examples of which are detailed in [I]When We Were Wizards[/I] and [I]Slaying the Dragon. [/I]But we know Gary did much the same stuff, and co-signed a lot of their worse management actions, though he later painted himself as the victim and hero of the story. 🤷♂️ [/QUOTE]
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