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<blockquote data-quote="shadzar" data-source="post: 5438241" data-attributes="member: 6667746">So its a WoW LAN party? Your loose definition just describes generic fantasy roleplaying. Is that what you are saying D&amp;D is and that it has no meaning? If so, then you are agreeing with the threads premise that D&amp;D does not exist, aren't you?The term &quot;D&amp;D&quot; has been genericized to have little meaning as such anyone would describe it as you just have, which makes the point stated exactly how it is.So you get there and they could pull out books from any of the 400 games with those few things and not actually have D&amp;D anywhere to be found.That is the problem being mentioned about the dilution as D&amp;D has been so within itself, and then adding on to it how it has been genericized.If your description is true, then this very forum should have Pathfinder discussion in the D&amp;D Legacy Forum.But having it there could be cause of edition wars which makes sense to give it its own forum, but, if Pathfinder and D&amp;D can have an edition war then isn't that saying again that Pathfinder is D&amp;D due to D&amp;D's being genericized?But FORD always started as a brand name. Model A FORD, Model T FORD. FORD was not a product.D&amp;D was a product first, that became a brand name and caused the problems of its own dilution.If you drive a Chevy you don't say you drive a FORD, but by some definitions, if you play Pathfinder, you CAN easily say you play D&amp;D.Dilution happened because people just drank the powdered fruit-flavored drink mix.SEE SEE SEE SEE!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shadzar, post: 5438241, member: 6667746"] So its a WoW LAN party? Your loose definition just describes generic fantasy roleplaying. Is that what you are saying D&D is and that it has no meaning? If so, then you are agreeing with the threads premise that D&D does not exist, aren't you? The term "D&D" has been genericized to have little meaning as such anyone would describe it as you just have, which makes the point stated exactly how it is. So you get there and they could pull out books from any of the 400 games with those few things and not actually have D&D anywhere to be found. That is the problem being mentioned about the dilution as D&D has been so within itself, and then adding on to it how it has been genericized. If your description is true, then this very forum should have Pathfinder discussion in the D&D Legacy Forum. But having it there could be cause of edition wars which makes sense to give it its own forum, but, if Pathfinder and D&D can have an edition war then isn't that saying again that Pathfinder is D&D due to D&D's being genericized? But FORD always started as a brand name. Model A FORD, Model T FORD. FORD was not a product. D&D was a product first, that became a brand name and caused the problems of its own dilution. If you drive a Chevy you don't say you drive a FORD, but by some definitions, if you play Pathfinder, you CAN easily say you play D&D. Dilution happened because people just drank the [I]powdered fruit-flavored drink mix[/I]. SEE SEE SEE SEE! [/QUOTE]

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