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<blockquote data-quote="Jackelope King" data-source="post: 2643423" data-attributes="member: 31454"><p>You may have seen them, but have you really read them? Most of them use absolutely blatant rules abuses and combos which simply cannot exist (dipping resources from Forgotten Realms, Eberron, and Greyhawk with equal fervor) or do not form an actually playable character (the hulking hurler is a glass cannon... he's got pathetic saves, poor hit points, and an armor class usually reserved for paralyzed sheep). 99% of the OMFGWTFBBQ builds of this type are entirely theory builds which serve absolutely no purpose in an actual game (like the hulking hurler and his uranium boulder, the ubercharge builds that take hours to prepare, or the appocalyptic artificer who needs to hunt down an artifact to cast his doomsday spell). The only time you need to worry about theory builds is if the players have act under absolutely controlled scenarios: in any situation other than their ideal situation, theory builds are significantly underpowered.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not necessarily. A = B, but B != C here. If you're looking at just 3.5, the power scale has decreased dramatically from the early days (<em>Book of Exalted Deeds</em>). Even just within the Complete book series, <em>Complete Adventurer</em> presents weaker options from a power point of view than all of its predecessors. <em>Complete Divine</em> may have been a bump up from <em>Complete Warrior</em> (I'm lookin' at you, divine metamagic), but there has been no general trend upwards in power. The "combo factor" you alude to later certainly may cause problems.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nah. This already exists in the core rules in the form of a single spell. It's called "gate" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Nothing wrong with playing a core only game. I can have plenty of fun with just those core books. However, vanilla ice cream, as tasty as it is all by itself, can only hold my attention for so long before I start craving something along the lines of "Fossil Fuel" or "Marsha-Marsha-Marshmallow" from Ben & Jerry's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jackelope King, post: 2643423, member: 31454"] You may have seen them, but have you really read them? Most of them use absolutely blatant rules abuses and combos which simply cannot exist (dipping resources from Forgotten Realms, Eberron, and Greyhawk with equal fervor) or do not form an actually playable character (the hulking hurler is a glass cannon... he's got pathetic saves, poor hit points, and an armor class usually reserved for paralyzed sheep). 99% of the OMFGWTFBBQ builds of this type are entirely theory builds which serve absolutely no purpose in an actual game (like the hulking hurler and his uranium boulder, the ubercharge builds that take hours to prepare, or the appocalyptic artificer who needs to hunt down an artifact to cast his doomsday spell). The only time you need to worry about theory builds is if the players have act under absolutely controlled scenarios: in any situation other than their ideal situation, theory builds are significantly underpowered. Not necessarily. A = B, but B != C here. If you're looking at just 3.5, the power scale has decreased dramatically from the early days ([i]Book of Exalted Deeds[/i]). Even just within the Complete book series, [i]Complete Adventurer[/i] presents weaker options from a power point of view than all of its predecessors. [i]Complete Divine[/i] may have been a bump up from [i]Complete Warrior[/i] (I'm lookin' at you, divine metamagic), but there has been no general trend upwards in power. The "combo factor" you alude to later certainly may cause problems. Nah. This already exists in the core rules in the form of a single spell. It's called "gate" ;) Nothing wrong with playing a core only game. I can have plenty of fun with just those core books. However, vanilla ice cream, as tasty as it is all by itself, can only hold my attention for so long before I start craving something along the lines of "Fossil Fuel" or "Marsha-Marsha-Marshmallow" from Ben & Jerry's. [/QUOTE]
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