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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stuart Kerrigan" data-source="post: 9497488" data-attributes="member: 6992554">Well, okay, let me pick one. The Great Kingdom the Aerdy is the decadent remnants of the once great Holy Romanesque empire in the Flanaess, having descended into madness and then deviltry.Old Canon (WoG Boxed Set and Beyond): The dominant Celestial Houses that have held the Malachite Throne of the Great Kingdom are Garasteth, Cranden, Rax-Nyrond, and Naelax. Currently, House Naelax is dominant, having ascended over the past century through alliances with fiendish forces and the support of the Church of Hextor. The Herzogs of the North and South Provinces, Grenell and Chelor, respectively, are both cousins of the Overking, and thus are of House Naelax. House Rax was eradicated in a bloody civil war a century and a half ago, while the Crandens have embraced the fact they may yet fade into  obscurity. Meanwhile, House Garasteth, still a formidable presence, is among those waiting for the Naelax to lose the throne. They control significant territories, including Rel Astra—the original Aerdi landing point and original capital of the Great Kingdom—now ruled by Constable-Mayor Drax of House Garasteth (the kingdom's founding house).2024 Continuity: House Naelax is the dominant house of the Great Kingdom. The North Province is now governed by Herzog Varz Grenell (presumably of House Grenell). The South Province, meanwhile, is held by Herzogin Seprenna Calyn, (of House Calyn?). Rel Astra, the ancestral home of the human Aerdy, is now in the hands of Constable-Mayor Drax, an orc.Imagine someone rewrote the politics of Game of Thrones (with a crayon IMHO) like that for a "new edition" of the books. It'd rankle a Game of Thrones fan. Hence my pain...It also means we start to lose even more of a common baseline in our shared storytelling in Greyhawk. Imagine this during a one-off at a gaming conventionDM: "So you travel to Zelradton to meet with the Herzog of the South Province, Chelor."Timmy: "Wait, what, I read the DMG. The Herzog is a chick - yeah, says Herzogin Calyn here."DM: "Timmy... we need to talk about Real Greyhawk (tm)." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />But yes, if you didn't have that much investment in the setting or you only read the original 32 page Folio the changes would seem minor.It's not all terrible - the maps are pretty good, the artwork of Emridy Meadows is pretty sweet and (desperately looks for something to be positive about) and uh... Ogon Tillit is still Theocrat? Yay?</blockquote>

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