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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9507577" data-attributes="member: 22779">This thread is chock a block with people singing praises of setting elements. What teeth pulling are you talking about. Even the negative stuff in the thread is mostly deep dive quibbles that only a tiny handful of people know/care about. I guess my question is, what are you looking for? You like drow? Here’s the original source. You like giants? Here’s the definitive source in DnD. You like Urban Renaissance era fantasy? Here’s Greyhawk which was doing it a decade before Waterdeep was a thing. You want gonzo fantasy? Got that in spades. You want the definitive mega dungeon? Got it. Why would they not use Greyhawk as the source for the definitive DnD setting in the DMG? You keep poo pooing it as nostalgia bait without making the slightest effort to understand the historical context of the setting. Why should we be trying to convince you? You’ve obviously already decided to hate this. What more can be presented here?</blockquote>