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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9734730" data-attributes="member: 18">I get it.It happened to me already with 40K, all the way back in 1998!I started playing GW games in about 1988, Adeptus Titanicus, Rogue Trader (1E 40K), etc. Went on to Epic Scale and Space Marine (2E 40K).That was all great and most of the really good baseline lore for 40K was created between about 1988 and about 1995 or so.Then came 3E 40K. What an awful, awful humourless, soulless version of 40K that was. Everything that was amazing about 40K was either stripped back hard, or outright removed, including Squats entirely, in what we later learned (though some guessed at the time) was basically a desperate attempt to retool to market to what GW (insanely) perceived as what Americans wanted. And really juvenile stuff was added - the Necrons and the Dark Eldar (the Eldar already included that concept lol!). The T'au were okay, a little boring but not a profound issue.And 4E and 5E made this worse, just kind of doubling down on weird creepy nonsense that made it seem like they thought the Imperium of Mankind (insane theocratic fascists) were just "Hard men making hard decisions". Absolutely DIAF Games Workshop of that era.However, time is a flat circle.From 8E and onwards, things started turning back my way. Humour was no longer illegal in 40K. Light-hearted moments were no longer banned. Hope and the chance that things might improve locally, which had been a thing 1E and 2E, even though most of the place was screwed, were allowed. Chaos stopped being overhyped as much, and the Imperium was back to being some good people but an awful lot of evil lunatic theofascists. Genestealer Cults came back! Squats came back! Cooler than before in both cases. I could go on.And guess what? A bunch of people 10 years younger, many of them awful 4Chan losers, than me were absolutely weeping that 40K had been "ruined" because the awful, humourless, theofascists-are-the-best 40K their youth was gone. And worse, this new version was (and is) selling much, much better than their version ever did!But I daresay in 20 years or w/e, we may see awful humourless 40K again, and even if neither of us likes Dark Sun 5E (perhaps for very different reasons), I daresay Dark Sun 6E or 7E may be different again.</blockquote>

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