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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LuisCarlos17f" data-source="post: 9739909" data-attributes="member: 6802378">The Athasian orcs are the tareks, who "evolutioned" to survive the cleasing wars, like other races.Now I am imaginin the brown tide that caused the end of the blue age wasn't really a true accident, but a sabotage like part of a secret conspirancy by divine powers against "Patriarch Ocean" (telling the true name of a deity is a serious taboo in Athas). Rajaat isn't a true pyreen but he was created by other power, or maybe he was tainted. His goal is the return of the blue age to resurrect Patriarch Ocean. Maybe the gods could be defeated by the primal powers because before they suffered a serious wear by a previous divine civil war. This could explain the reason because the Athasians don't want to pray to deities. They can believe their existence but they distrust them. The word for this is maltheism. Other option is the brown tide was intentional by an unknown power, and all that tainted water was teletransported to be used like a poison against some life-drainer power style Galactus. Then if this theory was true, the cataclysm of the brown tide never could be avoided by ever time-traveler.* If there is incarnum in Athas, a soulborn could be like a paladin subclass or templar, and the incarnate class for 5e could be a remix of 3.5 vestige binder and 3.5 incarnate class, about "I have got my own divine spark and now I fight for the ascension of my own avatar".* Other idea is the Athasian version of the plane of the mirrors. This is linked to the time-travelers this bizarre and weird zone is the product of a confrontation of different chronomancer factions, something like a nuclear post-apocalipse but by fault of time-travelers. Some altered timelines could be true utopies but the History was rewritten because other nation was to be the main superpower.</blockquote>

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