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<blockquote data-quote="Misanthrope Prime" data-source="post: 9741270" data-attributes="member: 6776166">What prompted me to ask the question is, personally, I'm part Greek and so I was like &quot;Hey does Calimshan have absolutely nothing to do with the historical Ottoman empire, or is it just that the Greek-American conception of the Ottomans is very much out of step with American pop culture's conception circa 1993?&quot;(That being said, the Greek narrative of the Ottoman period absolutely does emphasize slavery, but the thing I was looking for in Calimshan and didn't find was no analogue of the Millet system or its unique ethnic stratification; Calimshan seemed to be an homogeneous ethnostate before the Genasi showed up in 4e).Again, they weren't trying to make a middle eastern setting explicitly, but I used that term because &quot;oriental&quot; has different connotations in D&amp;D than as used in the work of, say, Edward Said; Calimshan is more &quot;orientalist but not Arab&quot; in the Said mode of orientalism, but I didn't want to call it &quot;Orientalist&quot; and have people say &quot;Where the Wu-Jins at?&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Misanthrope Prime, post: 9741270, member: 6776166"] What prompted me to ask the question is, personally, I'm part Greek and so I was like "Hey does Calimshan have absolutely nothing to do with the historical Ottoman empire, or is it just that the Greek-American conception of the Ottomans is very much out of step with American pop culture's conception circa 1993?" (That being said, the Greek narrative of the Ottoman period absolutely does emphasize slavery, but the thing I was looking for in Calimshan and didn't find was no analogue of the Millet system or its unique ethnic stratification; Calimshan seemed to be an homogeneous ethnostate before the Genasi showed up in 4e). Again, they weren't trying to make a middle eastern setting explicitly, but I used that term because "oriental" has different connotations in D&D than as used in the work of, say, Edward Said; Calimshan is more "orientalist but not Arab" in the Said mode of orientalism, but I didn't want to call it "Orientalist" and have people say "Where the Wu-Jins at?" [/QUOTE]

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