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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9891352" data-attributes="member: 87792">Way to completely miss the point. The Death Knight is a character who falls from a code - but because you want all members of all classes to be cookie cutter you are scrubbing away the uniqueness of individuals and then declaring other options to be "blandification".The example in question is of the monk - and stereotypically the monk is the most physically disciplined class in the game (Drunken Masters not withstanding). Does physical discipline often go with moral codification? Yes. So are paladins often physically disciplined and monks morally codified? Also yes. They are neighbours. And despite being not the same often have overlapping themesNow is it likely that Conan the Barbarian would become a Death Knight? No. Not for probably most barbarians. But Ilmore the Zealot becoming a Death Knight? Sure; he's paladin adjacent anyway even if he can't lay on hands and has serious anger issues. Jaz the Orc Slayer giving up his life and soul to be able to kill more orcs? Again yes. Not all barbarians are cookie cutter clones of Conan despite your best efforts to scrub the detail and uniqueness out of the game. (I'd also argue Conan isn't part of the barbarian class in 5e but that's another story).Your position is absurd as telling musicians that because notes are in the middle of the range of one instrument other instruments may not play it. In any piece of music. Now I get that going classless makes every instrument into a piano - but there is utterly no reason to mark a phrase of music "trumpets only" just because it is in the middle of the trumpet range. Especially if the trombone is also doing trombon-y glissandos that the trumpet simply can't do as part of the wider piece that the trumpet can't do and the trumpet is also going into its high register and using valve work the trombone can't. And I've nothing against the violin picking up the same musical phrase - which doesn't turn the violin into a trumpet. Now me? I like leitmotifs being shared between different instruments - and that doesn't somehow mysteriously make them the same instrument.</blockquote>

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