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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 9174887" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>It was definitely mentioned in 4E. Maybe it's rose-colored glasses or it's been some time since you read the 4E book.</p><p></p><p>A quick scan shows several sidebars and references throughout the book. Because it's integral to the setting. Almost like it's one of the defining features. It has an entry on the table of contents, it's mentioned in one of the eight characteristics of Athas, it's mentioned as something the PCs can fight against, it gets several paragraphs in the social order section, it's part of several races, it's referenced in the name of one of the paragon paths, it's mentioned several times in the character themes, it's a background, it's called out in various write ups of NPCs and locations and the history of the setting, it's also given several paragraphs in the running Dark Sun section, along with a call-out box detailing slavery and alignment. </p><p></p><p>If they made it explicit slavery is evil (which it is), and restricted it to evil NPCs, and focused large parts of the inevitable AP around freeing slaves and ending slavery as a practice it could work. WotC is far, far to conservative as the industry leader with a now much wider audience to have to spine to even try. There's an almost infinite number of ways to publish Dark Sun that would result in a huge backlash...while there's maybe 2-3 ways to publish it that wouldn't. And just about all of those involve reworking the setting to such a degree that the actual fans of the setting would be more likely to reject it. We've had a handful of threads on this exact topic since WotC said they'd never touch it.</p><p></p><p>All 5E is missing is the full psionic class. Though admittedly the existing psi subclasses don't really scratch the same itch. MCDM has the Talent now. Might be worth looking into.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 9174887, member: 86653"] It was definitely mentioned in 4E. Maybe it's rose-colored glasses or it's been some time since you read the 4E book. A quick scan shows several sidebars and references throughout the book. Because it's integral to the setting. Almost like it's one of the defining features. It has an entry on the table of contents, it's mentioned in one of the eight characteristics of Athas, it's mentioned as something the PCs can fight against, it gets several paragraphs in the social order section, it's part of several races, it's referenced in the name of one of the paragon paths, it's mentioned several times in the character themes, it's a background, it's called out in various write ups of NPCs and locations and the history of the setting, it's also given several paragraphs in the running Dark Sun section, along with a call-out box detailing slavery and alignment. If they made it explicit slavery is evil (which it is), and restricted it to evil NPCs, and focused large parts of the inevitable AP around freeing slaves and ending slavery as a practice it could work. WotC is far, far to conservative as the industry leader with a now much wider audience to have to spine to even try. There's an almost infinite number of ways to publish Dark Sun that would result in a huge backlash...while there's maybe 2-3 ways to publish it that wouldn't. And just about all of those involve reworking the setting to such a degree that the actual fans of the setting would be more likely to reject it. We've had a handful of threads on this exact topic since WotC said they'd never touch it. All 5E is missing is the full psionic class. Though admittedly the existing psi subclasses don't really scratch the same itch. MCDM has the Talent now. Might be worth looking into. [/QUOTE]
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