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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6499873" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>It seems to me that if you deliberately choose a background whose skills is on your class skill list, you can completely circumvent that class restriction.</p><p></p><p>Simply choose as your class skills the exact two skills your background gives you. This instantly allows you to re-choose from all skills, <strong>not limited to your class skill list.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Example:</em> A Barbarian's class skill list is "Choose two from Animal Handling, Athletics,</p><p>Intimidation, Nature, Perception, and Survival".</p><p></p><p>The Soldier background hands out Athletics, Intimidation. </p><p></p><p>So you want to select Athletics and Intimidation as your class skills. As soon as you then choose Soldier, you have duplicate proficiencies, and can re-choose from all skills.</p><p></p><p>This effectively means that you don't need to choose a background that complements your class in order to get a more diverse skill set that just your class skill list. In fact, you shouldn't. It's far better to pick a background that hands out skills your class is already giving you. </p><p></p><p>You would think a barbarian guild artisan (!), hermit (!!) or sage (!!!) would gain access to a wider selection of skills than the stereotypical barbarian folk hero, outlander or soldier...</p><p></p><p>...but you'd be wrong, since it is the latter trio who can be proficient <strong>in pretty much everything</strong>, instead of just two specific things. </p><p></p><p>I find this counter-intuitive, and I would like to hear if anyone has seen a rules suggestion or house rule that makes this awkwardness go away? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 6499873, member: 12731"] It seems to me that if you deliberately choose a background whose skills is on your class skill list, you can completely circumvent that class restriction. Simply choose as your class skills the exact two skills your background gives you. This instantly allows you to re-choose from all skills, [B]not limited to your class skill list.[/B] [I]Example:[/I] A Barbarian's class skill list is "Choose two from Animal Handling, Athletics, Intimidation, Nature, Perception, and Survival". The Soldier background hands out Athletics, Intimidation. So you want to select Athletics and Intimidation as your class skills. As soon as you then choose Soldier, you have duplicate proficiencies, and can re-choose from all skills. This effectively means that you don't need to choose a background that complements your class in order to get a more diverse skill set that just your class skill list. In fact, you shouldn't. It's far better to pick a background that hands out skills your class is already giving you. You would think a barbarian guild artisan (!), hermit (!!) or sage (!!!) would gain access to a wider selection of skills than the stereotypical barbarian folk hero, outlander or soldier... ...but you'd be wrong, since it is the latter trio who can be proficient [B]in pretty much everything[/B], instead of just two specific things. I find this counter-intuitive, and I would like to hear if anyone has seen a rules suggestion or house rule that makes this awkwardness go away? :) [/QUOTE]
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