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<blockquote data-quote="eprieur" data-source="post: 6048276" data-attributes="member: 81191">The thing is that durable is badly designed in many ways.1) It's not an option for non rollers.2) It's good if you roll to the point that you should probably take the feat and elect to roll using durable versus not to roll.3) The bonus to short rest is wasted even though it's kinda cool and help with healing in general (and do not put more pressure on clerics which is something I like) since it's not strong enough on it's own for non rollers but it's very good for rollers.4) It's not retroactive (see toughness). If you did not have the retroactive HP from toughness if you take it at level 5 who would? The only people who would take toughness are those that take it at level 1 if it was the case. That's what is happening with durable. You take it at level 1 even if you don't roll your starting hps because it starts to be usefull at level 2 and you need it before you roll for hp. If you take it at level 3 you wasted 1-2 levels (grey area if you roll before you get the feats or vice versa also). It's the only feat currently working like that and they will probably change it for those reasons and more.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eprieur, post: 6048276, member: 81191"] The thing is that durable is badly designed in many ways. 1) It's not an option for non rollers. 2) It's good if you roll to the point that you should probably take the feat and elect to roll using durable versus not to roll. 3) The bonus to short rest is wasted even though it's kinda cool and help with healing in general (and do not put more pressure on clerics which is something I like) since it's not strong enough on it's own for non rollers but it's very good for rollers. 4) It's not retroactive (see toughness). If you did not have the retroactive HP from toughness if you take it at level 5 who would? The only people who would take toughness are those that take it at level 1 if it was the case. That's what is happening with durable. You take it at level 1 even if you don't roll your starting hps because it starts to be usefull at level 2 and you need it before you roll for hp. If you take it at level 3 you wasted 1-2 levels (grey area if you roll before you get the feats or vice versa also). It's the only feat currently working like that and they will probably change it for those reasons and more. [/QUOTE]

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