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<blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 3244933" data-attributes="member: 18680">Yes.&nbsp; It is one of the annoying things in modern debates that people compare classes in terms of power to things with the same role.&nbsp;&nbsp; There are a million threads pointing out how easily a cleric can take over the fighter's role.&nbsp; If the Duskblade is better than the Cleric that is one thing but that 13th level ability that people are so wprried about has 2 implicaitons:1) You took 13 levels in Duskblade without taking a prestige class or 3.&nbsp; Very few melee characters in modern D&amp;D make it to 13th level with prestige classing.&nbsp; Heck, the cleric I talk about above could easily have slipped into something nasty like Contemplative by then . . .&nbsp; 2) The real limiting thing in D&amp;D is actions.&nbsp; Sure, the Duskblade can kill a lot of things with this ability if they are weak and he has managed to acquire whirlwind attack somehow.&nbsp; Please compare to other focused builds and realize just how weak that really is.&nbsp; At 13th level the Cleric is casting Destruction and the Wizard has access to things like Finger of Death, Reverse Gravitry, Mass Hold Person (and, as second level back-ups, has Disintegrate, Chain Lightening and Flesh to Stone).&nbsp; Under this view, the Duskblade is not even remotely overpowered compared to other high level options available to players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Votan, post: 3244933, member: 18680"] Yes. It is one of the annoying things in modern debates that people compare classes in terms of power to things with the same role. There are a million threads pointing out how easily a cleric can take over the fighter's role. If the Duskblade is better than the Cleric that is one thing but that 13th level ability that people are so wprried about has 2 implicaitons: 1) You took 13 levels in Duskblade without taking a prestige class or 3. Very few melee characters in modern D&D make it to 13th level with prestige classing. Heck, the cleric I talk about above could easily have slipped into something nasty like Contemplative by then . . . 2) The real limiting thing in D&D is actions. Sure, the Duskblade can kill a lot of things with this ability if they are weak and he has managed to acquire whirlwind attack somehow. Please compare to other focused builds and realize just how weak that really is. At 13th level the Cleric is casting Destruction and the Wizard has access to things like Finger of Death, Reverse Gravitry, Mass Hold Person (and, as second level back-ups, has Disintegrate, Chain Lightening and Flesh to Stone). Under this view, the Duskblade is not even remotely overpowered compared to other high level options available to players. [/QUOTE]

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