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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3244658" data-attributes="member: 35788"><p>I think the big issue is if they can cast a spell and attack in the same round. And that answer should be no. Casting a spell is a standard action (unless otherwise noted by the spell description). Attacking is either a standard action or a full round action - neither of which allow anything else besides a move action. Since you can't cast a spell as a move action ... you can't cast and attack in the same round.</p><p></p><p>Now, the 3rd level class ability allows a caster to deliver any touch spell through a weapon attack and if the attack is successful the spell goes off. The class ability says nothing about reducing the somatic components of the spell or altering the rules. It simply says that you can do both in one round. Thus, the rules for casting a spell must be enforced. The character must have a free hand to cast the spell (or take the feat Somatic Weaponry from Complete Mage) to cast spells with Somatic Spell components.</p><p></p><p>There are rules governing casting with a shield. Those have been discussed above. THere are no rules for casting with a double handed weapon. If you let them do it, you are essentially giving them Somatic Weaponry for free. If you chose this option, I'd suggest adding it as a bonus feat at either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd level.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I would not let it happen. There are prices to pay for fighting with a two handed weapon. You already get a huge bonus with the whole two-for-one Power Attack (and others). If you want to wield a greatsword and cast spells through it, take Somatic Weaponry.</p><p></p><p>As to being able to hold a weapon in one hand, of course I would let them do that. But in that case they may certainly cast the spell with only one hand on the weapon. They most certainly could not then attack with it.</p><p></p><p>That brings up another possibility. Take EWP(Bastard Sword). They could use it one handed or two handed depending on what they want to do. But then again, since you are taking a feat to do this, it'd just be easier to take Somatic Weaponry. That's an easy fix.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 3244658, member: 35788"] I think the big issue is if they can cast a spell and attack in the same round. And that answer should be no. Casting a spell is a standard action (unless otherwise noted by the spell description). Attacking is either a standard action or a full round action - neither of which allow anything else besides a move action. Since you can't cast a spell as a move action ... you can't cast and attack in the same round. Now, the 3rd level class ability allows a caster to deliver any touch spell through a weapon attack and if the attack is successful the spell goes off. The class ability says nothing about reducing the somatic components of the spell or altering the rules. It simply says that you can do both in one round. Thus, the rules for casting a spell must be enforced. The character must have a free hand to cast the spell (or take the feat Somatic Weaponry from Complete Mage) to cast spells with Somatic Spell components. There are rules governing casting with a shield. Those have been discussed above. THere are no rules for casting with a double handed weapon. If you let them do it, you are essentially giving them Somatic Weaponry for free. If you chose this option, I'd suggest adding it as a bonus feat at either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd level. Personally, I would not let it happen. There are prices to pay for fighting with a two handed weapon. You already get a huge bonus with the whole two-for-one Power Attack (and others). If you want to wield a greatsword and cast spells through it, take Somatic Weaponry. As to being able to hold a weapon in one hand, of course I would let them do that. But in that case they may certainly cast the spell with only one hand on the weapon. They most certainly could not then attack with it. That brings up another possibility. Take EWP(Bastard Sword). They could use it one handed or two handed depending on what they want to do. But then again, since you are taking a feat to do this, it'd just be easier to take Somatic Weaponry. That's an easy fix. [/QUOTE]
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