Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
DuskBlades
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Kat'" data-source="post: 4034470" data-attributes="member: 55972"><p>OK, read it. For those interested, have a look here:</p><p><a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20030413c" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20030413c</a></p><p></p><p>Now, if we compare this class to the Duskblade, we get some good points for the Raumathari, being:</p><p>- Ability to Quicken, Still, Silent, Empower, or Maximize up to 5 spells/day (Duskblade only Quicken 3/day at best)</p><p>- Channel Rays and single-target ranged spells through sword attack (Duskblade only touch spells)</p><p>- Channeled attacks grant a bonus on attack roll</p><p>- Focus sword grants +1 CL and +1 DC to channeled spells</p><p></p><p>OTOH, the class also has:</p><p>- 3/4 BAB</p><p>- D4 Hit Dice</p><p>- Only one good save (Will)</p><p>- EWP: Bastard sword and Combat Casting as a prereq (<u>two</u> useless feats)</p><p>- Two dead languages as a prereq (veeeeery useful)</p><p>- Only 4 uses per day of the Channel ability</p><p>- Sword focus must be, well, a sword. Channel ONLY works with this focus.</p><p>- No ability to cast spells in armor</p><p></p><p>So, if we compare, say, a Duskblade 20 to a Ftr 1/ Wiz 5/ Rauma 10/ Eldritch Knight 4 (a pretty simple build)...</p><p>DB: BAB 20, base saves 12/6/12, CL 20, 20d8 (avg. 90 HP), 5th level spells</p><p>Rauma: BAB 14, base saves 9/5/12, CL 17, d10+15d4+4d6 (avg. 57 HP), 9th level spells</p><p></p><p>The Rauma is by far a better caster (though he loses 3 Caster levels in the process), but quite a poor melee combatant. Low HP, only 3 attacks/round, no armored casting, limited use of Channeling and limited weapon selection... he cannot stand toe to toe to a Duskblade for raw melee potential. Which is, precisely, where the Duskblade really shines.</p><p></p><p>A better gish than the build presented would be Ftr 1/ Wiz 5/ Rauma 4/ Eldritch Knight 9/Spellsword 1, who would have 16 BAB (allowing 4 attacks/round), better HP, ignore 10% ASF and CL18, but lose most of the Rauma's interesting features.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kat', post: 4034470, member: 55972"] OK, read it. For those interested, have a look here: [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20030413c[/url] Now, if we compare this class to the Duskblade, we get some good points for the Raumathari, being: - Ability to Quicken, Still, Silent, Empower, or Maximize up to 5 spells/day (Duskblade only Quicken 3/day at best) - Channel Rays and single-target ranged spells through sword attack (Duskblade only touch spells) - Channeled attacks grant a bonus on attack roll - Focus sword grants +1 CL and +1 DC to channeled spells OTOH, the class also has: - 3/4 BAB - D4 Hit Dice - Only one good save (Will) - EWP: Bastard sword and Combat Casting as a prereq ([U]two[/U] useless feats) - Two dead languages as a prereq (veeeeery useful) - Only 4 uses per day of the Channel ability - Sword focus must be, well, a sword. Channel ONLY works with this focus. - No ability to cast spells in armor So, if we compare, say, a Duskblade 20 to a Ftr 1/ Wiz 5/ Rauma 10/ Eldritch Knight 4 (a pretty simple build)... DB: BAB 20, base saves 12/6/12, CL 20, 20d8 (avg. 90 HP), 5th level spells Rauma: BAB 14, base saves 9/5/12, CL 17, d10+15d4+4d6 (avg. 57 HP), 9th level spells The Rauma is by far a better caster (though he loses 3 Caster levels in the process), but quite a poor melee combatant. Low HP, only 3 attacks/round, no armored casting, limited use of Channeling and limited weapon selection... he cannot stand toe to toe to a Duskblade for raw melee potential. Which is, precisely, where the Duskblade really shines. A better gish than the build presented would be Ftr 1/ Wiz 5/ Rauma 4/ Eldritch Knight 9/Spellsword 1, who would have 16 BAB (allowing 4 attacks/round), better HP, ignore 10% ASF and CL18, but lose most of the Rauma's interesting features. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
DuskBlades
Top