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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 753435" data-attributes="member: 9213">Do you have proof that those are not screen shots of the films in question? Other than your eye I mean? All of the examples shown on this page are freeze frames of actual DVD video, taken from discs which include both full frame and widescreen versions. The widescreen version will always be on the left. Why do you debate this? Simply because it is a point different than youre own? I'll tell you what, when I worked at Tower Video over ten - thriteen years ago, back when I go into LD's, my supervisor and I did the comparison tests on our monitors in the store. We used two films that we knew that were pure 2.35:1, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Yojimbo. We used the Pan and Scan versions of these films to compare against (the P&S version of yojimbo was a VHS copy but it makes no difference, the debate is over the aspect ratio not the resoolution). We had each film side by side with it's respective opposite:Raiders (ws) next to Raiders (P&S)Yojimbo (WS) next to Yojimbo (P&S)I'll tell you what I saw not taking the size of the viewing medium (i.e the Monitor) into account, were taking about just the IMAGE that is being presented. You are losing a significant amount of information from either side at any given moment. There's a scene in Raiders just when things are abou,t to go to hell in Marions bar. There's a standoff between Indy and Toht ( the Nazi with the glasses) and his henchmen. In the P&S version (at least the one that I saw, and I owned a P&S version of Raiders for at least a year until the WS version came out, Indy just turns and fires off to the left for no apparent reason. In the WS version you can VISIBLY see that there is a shadow moving along the wall to his left, implying that someone was trying to get the drop on him and that's why he fired. No it's quite possible that in newer version of the P&S they could have fixed this by cutting accross to show the shadow, then cutting back to INDY firing. But then that's the studio re-editing for what they want you to see as opposed to letting you notice for yourself.Now if you prefer P&S that's your buisness. But as someone who graduated from college with a Major in Media Studies and a minor in film and has had this discussion many a time with collegues and professors I can only say that everyone that I've spoken to would say that you do lose a significant part of the intended viewing image with P&S (at least with films shot in 2.35:1 and greater). I mean in older movies like Ben Hur you are even losing more. Stick to your guns if you wish, but I've been having this discussion with people since I got turned on to it in 1989. I find it a little disconcerting that when presented with actual screencaps from DVD's you say that those are fabrications. I've seen this comparison up close and have done it in my own house. I disagree with you. Am I lying?</blockquote>

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